Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I won't tell you who RJ is but I will tell you how you can find him in a simple way without getting involved with the storyline. Finally we'll have our RJ in hand, that's for sure. Let's take another perspective in trying to find out who he might be. In almost all similar scenarios (unknown serial killer), the killer is somehow revealed. It might be a surprise for the audience or just obvious. It doesn't matter. What matters is that the person picked for that role must fit the character which is generated during the run.

You can't expect Kevin Costner to play a cannibal. He has a natural soft face and expressions. Further, he can't make you feel it's alright. What I'm saying is; the actor and the character image drawn must have a harmony/fit like hand and glove. An exact click. Even though most actors and actresses can overcome hard/complicated acts most of the time but when it comes to some psycho-master serial killer, you need someone who can really make that impression. You can play the game of "who could have played this role if it wasn't him?". For instance; try to find an alternative for Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura. Or replace Al Pacino with someone else in The Godfather.

As I can see from the very beginning of the show, the cast-character match goes perfect, precise and intimate. Try to replace Simon Baker for PJ for God's sake! So, the actor to be picked to play RJ can not happen on random selection. Because, if he doesn't get killed by Patrick immediately after being revealed, this means he will have some time in the show. He will talk, do things, etc. Maybe he will get arrested first. We will somehow see him in interaction with other people. But in his true identity. No more hiding...Therefore, whoever he will be, he will have to fill in the bottle of RJ on all aspects. Serial killers after being caught/revealed (as I have seen so far):

a- Act like crazy. Extreme ideas, exaggerated speech, talking nonsense weird stuff
b- Stay calm, joyful and cool until they have no way out but still you can feel his insanity
c- Get absolutely silent like they are not aware of anyone else around them

If you have any other observations, you can add up in your mind. Now the first question is: Which category do you think RJ will fit in? I pick "b". And who would fit into the category "b"? My money is on Partridge or Haffner. Others, even if they try to play that version, there will be a credibility issue.

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last night i saw the season finale of how i met your mother...and we finally saw the mother?after so many seasons.i was really excited right before the reveal ...but right after we saw her face ...i had mixed feelings and the first thought in my head was...is this how i'm going to feel when they revealed red john?excited?dissapointed?is it going to be worth the wait?is it going to be like " monk " all over again?god help us all ..and for the love of god don't let it be a judge and then have patrick revealed that her daughter is not dead after all...or i'm going to throw my tv out the window...AGAIN.I guess is no secret that we're all going to be dissaponted and we're pobably going to care more about patrick and teresa's relationship the the actual reveal of red john....just like today that i'm starting to care more about ted's and robin's relantionship than the actual mother........there better be some exciting twists and turns next season in the mentalist...one last thing...if you are one of those people that think that brett partridge is red john..you are in for a rude awakening.think about it...at the beginning of the series we had like what 10 or 15 suspects..almost all the suspects have 3 or 4 things that made a lot of people think they were red john..whether it was the name,anagram,poetry...they all had something especially one guy brett partridge..since episode one he's been the number one suspect...there's no doubt he is going to be there when rj is reveal...BUT..if brett partridge is reveal to be red john...where's the shock value? he's been the number one suspect since the beginning....the show has been set up to make it look like anybody could be rj....and to look that brett partridge is rj...only to be revealed that rj is somebody else and you'll say..WTF!....IT HAS TO BE the least person to be suspected to be rj....somebody like reede smith or sheriff mcalister..if brett p....is revealed to be rj...America and the whole world will say...of course i knew it from the beginning...it makes perfect sense...but where's the fun in that...NO SHOCKING VALUE.

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Can you imagine a TV show in which almost the whole cast is accused of being the uncaught serial killer??? This leads us to 2 conclusions:

1- The writers are so damn clever so that we can't just connect the dots and figure out who he/she is.
2- The RJ role keeps switching from one to another as the seasons pass and people come to realize who it is.

Don't worry fellas, even if the show ends with disappointment (this will happen for sure), we'll have our posts to live with among which there will be many better alternative scenarios/theories. And the writers and Heller can just bite us :)))


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Jane's  father...¿?¿?
I've already seen the last episode of the 5th season. After 5 seasons, I don't rememeber if we now for sure that Jane's father is dead or alive. So, we don't know how old is his father, maybe he is not able to commit murders becasue of his age, but we also don't know if RJ is the one who kills or the one who commands to kill, actually our knonledge about RJ is quite poor. Perhaps Jane ruined his life running away. I thought in his father because it would be a surprise due to they never show him. In Twin Peaks the creators deciced who was the killer recording the "last" episode, and they say YOU, pointing with the finger. In fact, we can be victims of this action.....

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I'm afraid things are much darker than were originally anticipated. The biggest clue towards red john's identity was the poem the tyger by willliam blake and only person has extremely deep understanding of that poem and it's metaphors. That person is William Blake.

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare sieze the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art.
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And watered heaven with their tears,
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

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Heller leaves it all open, they give themselves plenty of room to move
within the script. If they see something works they go with it. If it
doesn't they change. This then changes everything.

They are not
going to keep going with something if it doesn't work and right now this
Red John thing is keeping people guessing and it's working, so they
will keep screwing with us until their pockets are full of money and
then when they feel they have milked this Red John thing long enough
they will just create 2 episodes, get bits and pieces off all the worst
bits of who they wish, create an episode around that and bingo, there's
your Red John. Teresa could be Red John as far as we know, anyone could
be Red John. Just Teresa with her hand in a bandage could change
everything.  Get over it people. This is the reason no one can work out
this mystery. It's a scam!

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Theory #3257 • By Esme1234567890
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Gale Bertram = Great Male or Great Balmer 


RedPalace 
user on this site made an incredible anagram from Reede Smith (the red is me); which motivated me to do the same for Gale Bertram.  The most coherent one I have is "Great Male" but that leaves out the "B" and other "r" letters.  "Great Balmer" (Balmer is the lava-flooded remains of a lunar crater [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmer_(crater)]) uses all the letters.  Here are all the weaker/ridiculous ones:

Realm     
Grab Meat/Meat Bag
Game/Male
Brat/Gamer
Meet Gala (red apple)
Large Meat
Rager/Rage 
Brat
Blamer
Tamer
Marble 
Mage
Tea Bag

Lets keep this going with all the 7 names on the list and see if anything else interesting comes up

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