Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I know it's probably not Lisbon cos of the list or anything but I can't help thinking she's involved with RJ somehow, (maybe from the beginning or brought on board), but she's having trouble as she wants to do RJ's bidding but is falling for Patrick too.
I have a few questions that need answering and a couple of interesting theories:
q1. is that video that was shown to Lisbon a setup between Patrick & Lorelai to flush Lisbon & RJ out?
He destroyed it pretty quick after she watched it.
He knew the 7 suspects and the "happy" memory that Jane was supposed to have had.
So is it a fake list (or partial fake list)?
q2. is it me or doesn't he seem to trust Lisbon lately (& she him)?
He doesn't let her in the room.
She doesn't tell him what happened to her arm.
He didn't want her there while he spoke to old friends (she had to wait in car) & looked pretty pissed off.
The timing of the 7 suspects was perfectly executed if a plan.
q3. why did kirkland & gale (2 top suspects) wonder if they could "trust" Lisbon after her recent little meeting with Bertram? I mean what's all that about.
Nothing revealed about her past (that I can remember).
RJ asked Patrick for Lisbons head recently but knew he didn't carry it through.
He's always 1 step ahead of Patrick, is patrick keeping his cards close cos he doesn't trust Lisbon now as she has been feeding him all the info.

both bertram & kirkland are linked. both are suspects. kirkland killed someone close to RJ recently. either one is RJ or they both work for him, so can't be trusted regardless.

I'd like to see Jane explain how those people got on his list as some of them are ridiculous (which makes me think it's fake) 

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Some other theorists have already expressed some aspects of my current theory. I think that Patrick Jane made the video of Lorelei reading the list of the seven suspects, with Lorelei's cooperation, sometime shortly after she had been shot in her arm.


So obviously Jane created the list of seven names, and he wanted only Lisbon to see the video and know the seven. That is why he immediately destroyed the disk. I'm not really sure that Lorelei is really dead, it could have been a setup by Jane so that Red John will think she is no longer a threat to him because he killed her sister. The problem with this, of course, is that RJ would know that he did not kill Lorelei.


Anyway, Jane will be ahead of Red John, and if he later finds out that RJ knows the list of 7, he will also know that Lisbon is connected to RJ, who will probably immediately tell Lisbon that he did not make the video with Lorelei, and Jane will be able to read Lisbon. 

I also think that Rosalin Harker may have lied about the physical and vocal description of RJ, as RJ may have told her to mislead the CBI.

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I wonder...
Lorelei mentioned that PJ and RJ are a lot alike, that they could have been friends.  The only person with whom PJ seems to have a "friendly" relationship with is Stiles. 
Re-watch their scenes together, it's like a tit-for-tat conversation, back-and-forth witty comments. 
Stiles may not fit the clue profiles we've heard from Rosalind et al. , but as we've seen over the seasons, RJ is many.  That ability to bring so many into his circle, drink the perverbial kool-aid, and to have them do his bidding....

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I want to follow up on my other posting that Haffner is Red John.  I cant stand this fool.  He is such a sneaky slime bag.  He was just faking being fooled by Jane.  He just sat there all smug during his lecture from Bertram, probably laughing inside at the scam he was pulling.  I also think Haffner is banging Lisbon.  I mean how many times has she gotten laid in 5 seasons?  Once?  He created this whole story about her having great investigative prowess and putting that to use in his PI firm.  The only reason Lisbon solves any cases is because of Jane.  F'ng Haffner is so sleazy.  Not that we all havent conned women into bed but Haffner is just a dirtball.  My hate for his character grows by the minute.  I hate the network for making me wait until Sept. to finally see what I already know.  I am guessing Haffner(REd John) will start to kill off the other members of Janes list one by one.  Haffner obviously has the physical goods to kill at will un-challenged. The bad news is I will have to spend several months waiting for Haffner to be jailed or killed.  I am guessing he will just escape and leave the country.  I FUCKING HATE HAFFNER!

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Hey guys!

Since it's been 5 seasons already I think it's fair for you to know who Red John really is, no BS, no nothing. I have a friend who works at the show and is in a very good position and he told me Kirkland is the one.
Sorry if that disappointed any of you, but I think it's an ok suspect, don't you?

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I'm not sure who it is, but assume I will be disappointed.  I wonder if it is possible that Jane already knows who Red John already is. Jane always knows who the murderer is way before anyone else (most of the time at the beginning of each episode he already knows).  Anyway, it is possible that Jane just wants RJ to feel comfortable so he can make a move that will hurt RJ to the same degree that Jane himself was hurt.  In the case of RJ, I think the way he could be hurt the most would be to destroy his reputation and embarrass him beyond any repair.  To humiliate "the great" RJ would be the ultimate revenge.

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Theory #3290 • By Hannacristina
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Jane's father!
he is the mentor of Jane!He taught him how to be a mentalist ...Only he is smarter than Janecase closed!where is the pizza with pineapple?

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