Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Kirkland is Red John. But before that, let me debunk some theories that Lisbon works for Red John (I'm assuming the ludicrous theory that she IS Red John can now be completely ignored because of what Heller said that RJ is one of the 7 on the list).

Firstly, her character - Jane has correctly read that she's someone who's too gullible, can't tell lies, and gives herself away easily. In the S5 finale, when Sean Barlow teased her about her liking Jane, Jane didn't flinch or react much but gave his usual wry, I-already-know-it smile because of Lisbon's nature of not being able to hide anything.

If you think that she's putting on an act then here I come to my second point - her reactions - if you notice whenever CBI receives an RJ case (just like in the S5 finale), her reaction will be one of sadness, anxiety and worry. In the finale, when she received the call from the first responders, as she was walking towards Jane to inform him, she looked very pensive and worried. When they arrived at the crime scene in the motel, she was looking at the victim in great pain and agony even when Jane was not looking. She was genuinely worried and sad for the entire thing and for Jane. And finally when she was watching the video at the end of the finale, she was horrified and looked extremely taken aback by the fact that RJ could make the list.

Think about it, if she was working for RJ she would've known all these and is there any way she would react in those ways?And, for all persistent sceptics out there, even if she IS working for RJ but kept in the dark by all these, do you think she would've lasted as RJ's companion/accomplice after seeing all his murders and heinous tactics for FIVE seasons?? As for her unexplained wrist injury in the finale, I'm sure the producers will come up with something to explain it in the next season.

Now I come to my point about Kirkland as RJ.

Why do I say so? Just look at all the signs that Bruno Heller has been throwing at us.

Firstly, the limo and his voice - in the S4 finale it was made known to us that RJ likes to travel in or make use of limos to communicate with his henchmen. It says a lot about how Jane has been accurately reading RJ as someone to be a showman, who has an inferiority complex especially towards women (a point to which I shall return later) and would thus like to feel good and powerful about himself by killing those who make him feel inferior (women) in cruel mockery (the smiling face painted with victims' blood) and what other way to make yourself feel powerful than hire a limo.

Now Bob Kirkland traveled by limo doesn't he? In S5x05 (Red Dawn) we saw him talking to Alexa Shultz in the limo, watching her carry out his orders to get CBI to feed him info about RJ stuff. Perhaps that's how RJ has gotten all his info about the investigation on him and is always one step ahead? And then there's the voice. From all the 7 suspects none of them have a natural voice that is similar to that of RJ as heard in the S2 finale when he helps kill Jane's abductors. From this we can assume that the voice is put-on. And Heller has showed us in the limo scene in S5x05 that Kirkland is perfectly capable of putting on a high-pitched voice (whether it was accidental, I don't know) when he said "Thank you" to Shultz - is Heller trying to hint to us something?

Secondly, the point I said I'd return to, his behaviour around women - I believe there's a reason why the writers/Heller showed the scene in S5x19 (Red Letter Day) of Lisbon and Kirkland having a chat over coffee - it's obvious that Kirkland has difficulties talking to women, and even Lisbon finds it awkward. But he isn't when it comes to RJ at the end, as he slipped the question in of whether there were any "new lines of inquiry" on RJ - a stark difference from his disinterested, unresponsive and awkward style of talking about growing up and his life, etc. Isn't there a clear parallel to how we know RJ to be as read by Jane - inferior and shy around women, dates a blind girl because he's unconfident and therefore kills women to satisfy himself? And then suddenly he becomes so interested when RJ is mentioned!

Thirdly, other signs - in the episode when Lorelei was killed, for a moment the camera briefly shows Kirkland at the scene looking around, surveying everyone including Jane and looking a tad suspicious from my point of view. Is it because, as RJ, he wanted to revel at Jane's reaction to the fact that Lorelei is dead, mock him for being one step ahead, or perhaps he wanted to keep abreast of the latest developments since it's his "internal matter"? There's also the scene at the end of (S5x19) when Kirkland is in his apartment and he's drinking the same drink that Jane drank during the anniversary of his wife's and daughter's murder!!! Is this a John/Jane parallel that Heller is getting at? Fast forward to the last cutscene and Kirkland is done with his project board on whatever Jane has detailed on RJ's history and the setting is made and the camera positioned such that Kirkland's shadow looms over the board - what is Heller trying to tell us? That Kirkland is responsible for all those murders, responsible for everything, the man who oversaw all of those? And what about the infamous shaking of hand in S5x07 when Kirkland also remarks, eerily, "But I know you" and then one of RJ's theme music play ominously in the background? These are very obvious clues that Heller's throwing at us! And if you suspect that it's "too obvious", perhaps Heller already knows we would be thinking this way and is using reverse psychology on us?

Of course, there's also the theories about Jason Lennon - why did he not recognise Kirkland if he is RJ? Couple of possibilities: Firstly, it may be that RJ (Kirkland) did not give orders directly to Lennon but through some other henchman (perhaps Reede Smith, his possible FBI friend?). Or secondly, Lennon's memory has not fully recovered after being shot or he had been hypnotised by RJ before to the effect that if Lennon sees him in person he's not supposed to recognise him.

Then there's also the thing about the list that RJ made - how could it be Kirkland when he got Jane's investigation trail AFTER Lorelei has died and therefore after they made the video? I believe the answer to this is: Kirkland has always been tracking Jane (remember how he got Alexa Shultz to tell Minelli to inform them about the RJ investigation?) and would therefore know who Jane's met, who shook hands with him, etc. to the extent that he could make a list and narrow them down to the same 7 suspects because like Jane, he would know only who possibly could be at all the RJ murder scenes so far (Jane explained in the S5 finale that's how he got down to the 7). Like RJ, Kirkland would be meticulous and always planning ahead, reading Jane's mind very well because like Jane he is also a Mentalist.

Kirkland also fits RJ's physical profile very well - he's of average height, he's of age to have committed the Visualize barn murders (actor Kevin Corrigan is 44 years old), he has short hair, can put on an odd, high-pitched voice (explained earlier), and he's of relative build to have the strength to carry out those murders. His position in Homeland Security would also give him a lot of access to much information and authority to carry out the seemingly-impossible things that RJ did to be always ahead of Jane. Brett Partridge, on the other hand, doesn't, Gale Bertram and Bret Stiles don't fit the physical bill, it would be too anti-climatic for Reede Smith and Thomas McAllister to be RJ (they're running a show, they wouldn't want to lose viewers), although Ray Haffner can be debatable, but my gut feeling is that he isn't because there's not much emphasis on him in the episodes.

There you have it, Bob Kirkland is the one.

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there are a few things patrick is always saying
1.cold reading
2.hot reading
3.memory palace
4.i'm no psyquic..i'm just paying attention.
5.rj thinks of himself as a showman,an artist
 has a strong sense of theater

there are patterns in which after watching all five seasons you can tell that:
1.red john works always in the same way even patrick says so in the fifth season finale.there are also patterns  in the first 4 finales somebody says when did you know or you really had me going.SEASON-1.sherriff hardy"you really had me going you never really did go see the judge.SEASON-2..i know what they are doing they got your mother right...yes how did you know?.....and then the other two...how did you know it was us?SEASON-3...timothy says..what are you going to do your friends are gone?patrick didn't know until end of the rope line.....which says timothy knew gale would get rid of them and feed olaughlin to the wolvesSEASON-.4 when did you know?oh you strung me along for a long while now.
patrick has patterns too...every single episode he finds the killer using cold reading and paying attention...you know some of those tricks he has done to ,cho,lisbon,vanpelt and wayne throughout the series..cold readings...the happy memory can be explained being a cold  or hot reading...other patterns...1 jane tricked sheriff hardy..3jane tricked gale bertram..4jane tried to trick rj....SEASON 5 i can't actually prove it but i think jane fooled rj giving him those suspects based on the evidence he had in that room that he even knew somebody might brake into.

here's part of a very interesting scene in season 1......
 i'm supposed to find who put you up to this,
you see my friends think you are an idiot.
being a fool gives you sore of a power doesn't it?
you are there and you are not there
is like having a wizard's cloak of invisivility.
looking back i should've known it was you the first
time i saw you.only an idiot would wear a tshirt like that to a
house in mourning...an idiot or daring killer with a warp sense of humor.
you're going down for this one you might as well go down as your true self.
there's no point in hiding anymore i can see you.iam curious are there two
of you?or is tommy just an act that you put on.
-please i'm not a mental case.tommy is an act,a performance.

NOW imagine brett partridge in his place...and read it again...it makes sense that what if brett is red john is acting and giving a performance portraying something he is not...A WEAK PERSON like brett partridge and show up in some fake and some real red john's murder scenes.HOW IS THAT FOR A WARP SENSE OF HUMOR.

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Ray Haffner is Red John.  Stiles, Partridge, Kirkland and Bertram are too obvious. Too many clues for these cats have been left to throw us off.  Smith and McAllister could be Red John because they have no history and a storyline could be established around one of them next season.  

I have many reasons including my great HATE of Haffner however I will just stick with the main 3.  Haffner states he joined Visualize because he was a troubled 17 year old going down the wrong path.  He has a football trophy in his office and several people online have hinted that he has a football background.  If he troubled enough to join a cult, would he actually be involved in playing a team sport such as football.  I am guessing the 17 years olds that Visualize are recruiting do not have a positive item in their life like football can be.  If my time estimation is correct during Haffners college age he would have been on the farm and not on campus playing ball.

I also believe Haffner has the physical goods to carry out the murders.  Red John kills at will and it doesnt seem like there is much fighting back.  Red John strikes swiftly and powerfully it seems.  Haffner fits that physical bill.

Haffner is a manipulator and liar in a very subtle way....behind closed doors with Cho......his attempt and getting Lisbon out of the CBI.......I am also guessing that all of Hafnners credentials are fake.  I also think that Haffner has gotten involved romantically with Lisbon and this will come out in the next season.  I think his invitation to Lisbon was to get her away from the CBI and hopefully have Jane working for someone less tolerant of his actions and thus getting Jane off his trail.  I also think that Haffner wanted to hook up with Lisbon to get closer to someone who knows Jane.  JAne is getting closer and Haffner knows it.

Haffner is a sleazy douchebag.  Just look at his eyes.  I hope Jane kills Haffner.  I HATE HAFFNER!




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Ray Haffner
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=reed+diamond+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=reed+diamond+..........

Reede Smith
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=drew+powell+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=drew+powell+he.........

Bret Stiles
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=malcolm+mcdowell+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=mal&aqs=c........

Brett Partridge
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jack+plotnick+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=ja&aqs=chrom......

Gale Bertram
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=michael+gaston+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=mic&aqs=chr.......

Sheriff Thomas McAllister
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=xander+berkeley&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=xander+berkeley&a.....

Robert Kirkland
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kevin+corrigan+height&rlz=1C1CHIK_enGB498GB498&aq=f&oq=kev&aqs=chr....

 "Only six episodes have focused on Red John, in spite of him being the show's (and Jane's) main antagonist. He appears to be a Caucasian male of average height:  Rosalind Harker described him as being "just under six feet tall (approx 180 cm), with short, straight hair, not muscular but not soft with strong hands." Since his killings date back to the 90s, Red John is probably at least in his late 30s or 40s."

This isn't a theory just some concentrated info to narrow the field. Some above are too tall, short, muscley, scrawny or I'm sure if we look back at the episodes some don't have strong hands as Jane has probably commented on one of their handshakes although not all are shown.

Some of my own eliminations: Brett Partridge- A disciple not RJ, too obvious, theres too much info pointing at him but he'd be the key to informing RJ on Jane when he is AT crime scenes. He could also assist in hacking into the CBI "secure" server but it's likely someone else assisted in the hacking as we don't know how far up the chain RJs disciples go.

Bret Stiles- Intelligent enough, has plenty of followers already including a suspect Ray Haffner but he seems far too old to have been the one who RAN away from Cho and Rigsby in the season 1 finale.

Reede Smith- Don't know enough about him could easily be RJ but with great acting but tbh I think he isn't athletic enough I imagine RJ being like Moriarty in the sense he's a capable fighter...although Jane isn't like Sherlock in that sense. But still from my last point on Stiles I don't think he could outrun Cho and Rigsby

Robert Kirkland- I don't think it's Kirkland because he is far too out in the storyline if that makes sense in the same sense as Stiles and Partridge it's seems to easy like we're being pointed in their direction.

Which leaves Gale Bertram, Sheriff Thomas McAllister and Ray Haffner.

Heller said one of the 7 is definitely RJ I personally like all 3 for it.

My favourite would be Gale Bertram although he is taller than 6ft but I don't know if Heller will stay to that fact as the witness was blind.



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Bruno Heller the creator of the show confirmed in an interview that red john is definately one of the seven names on patricks list. i think its brett partridge because he is always there and it would make sense!

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do you guys remember the season 2 finale?
1.-i don't understand how can somebody in a semidark room while wearing a mask can make such a precised shots.
2.-notice how rj is holding the gun...somebody working with a policed related background would hold the gun with both hands as jane said in an episode is a reaction that never goes away....only partridge and brett stiles don;t have the backgroung...and rj didn't used any gun...i dont know that much about guns but if you look at it closely is not your usual gun.
3.notice how the camera is always on and the boy and the girl are always looking at the monitor...which means when red john entered and killed them the camera was always on...the only one with the history with arms is cho,but he is not one of the 7....i admit i'm not the brightest light on the tree but this particulat episode insults my inteligence.you can clearly see that at least 3 different actors played rj on this episode.the one that shoots,anotherone when he turns  on the steps...when he walks to the girl and when they show his face next to patrick...also you can clearly tell they used different voices when rj spoke...and you can tell the voice is not coming from the actor especially at the tiger tiger poem.there's a theory online that they used patrick's voice to say the tiger tiger poem...and when they show rj face i get the sensation that is a woman....if in fact iit is true that they used patrick's voice..you dont think they would used lisbon wearing a mask...i'm talking only when they showed the face because the body it is clearly a man's body....and when rj is walking to where the girl is...his legs are similar to cho's...really weird episode.

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