The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 270)

Theory #3415 • By ilker

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Well they say red john is in the list but do we know there is just one person. Or let me say it in another way, even if there is A red john, there are mor people in that list that serves to Red John. And there is nothing against that. Bob Kirkland is working for Red John that's for sure. From him Red John learned what info Patrick has and find out there are only 7 people left. So Bob Kirkland is just a servant of Red John otherwise there is no mystery there. Also about Brett Partridge, well there are lots of theories that says it is him but I do believe he is either a missdirection (which is the main concept of this program) or another servant of Red John. I honestly believe Red John is Sheriff McAllister. Why? Well it is impossible to find a clue from a guest appearance from season 1 but the magic word is STAR POWER.
Even fake Red John at the end of season played by Bradley Whitford. Xander Berkeley is the biggest STAR in the list and the most mysterious one.

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First off, Red john cannot be a member of Jane's family; looking for personal vengeance against jane like his brother jimmy, cos red john started killing long before he knew Jane. kirkland and brett are being painted as red john possibilities by the producers and its way too obvious. They cant be. Personally, i think its Dr linus wagner, travel back to the first episode, check out the handshake scene between the dr and jane, it was a bit too epic. in the season 1 episode 'red johns friends', The man that patrick helped from prison, who later escaped to mexico where he met his waterloo in a bathub, he wrote on the wall, and i quote 'He is ma{r}{n} the last letter could be a 'r' or 'n' more likely 'r'. it could mean he is marooned, which means in a place he cant get out from {prison} this points to linus wagner. He could have his ways of getting out and returning, maybe through the laundry van like our thief friend in 'like a redheaded stepchild' in earlier season or have people do his dirty work from outside. In prison he could do a lot of research about patrick, resulting in his infinite knowledge about patrick. And i guess we all know that Red john calls the mentalist by the name 'patrick' leaving most of the other suspects out of it.

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Theory #3412 • By obama

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Lorelei Martins is red john, after she kill her self she have call patrick from heaven.

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Acording to Heller Red John is one of 7 people on that list.

1.Bret Stiles
Never killed a person (at least not proved), would rather have someone else do it.
Red John enjoys to kill, Bret Stiles not (or he probably would have killed his victims himself).

2.Gale Bertram
Was already suspected of being an accomplice of RJ.So it would be boring from a narrative view to have him as RJ.

3.Ray Haffner
Member of Visualize. Fits the profile and is already an established character on the show.

4.Reede Smith
Appears in Season 5. You don't know a lot about him, so why is he on the list?

5.Robert Kirkland
Appears out of nowhere in Season 5. More of a distraction, but he's definitly "evil".

6.Sheriff Thomas McAllister
Doesn't seem to have the intelligence and looks like a random choice to me. But he will return in Season 6.

7.Brett Partridge
Most theories say it's him, but I've got a feeling that Heller wouldn't make it that easy.

My top three are: Ray Haffner, Brett Patridge and Sheriff Thomas McAllister.

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Theory #3410 • By BrianJ

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Patrick's father is Red John.

Lisbons brother and/or family is being held hostage and that is why Lisbon told Red John about the happy memory of Aileen or her office is possibly bugged which would indicate Bertram is involved.

Loralai is still alive or killed after making the video during the season finale. That is why the social worker went to where the baby was later at night.

Kirkland works with Red John and had his guys steal the notes that Patrick intentionally left to see who would break into his room at the CBI. He knew only CBI or FBI could pull off breaking into his room. That is why he left the toothpick in the door to know when to the bait had been taken.

Patrick's father / Kirkland know how Patrick thinks and was able to deduce the same list of 7 that Patrick planted. I think all 7 on the list work with Red John but Patrick's father is Red John.

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Bruno Heller wrote only 17 episodes.

For me the main question is: did Heller altready know who RJ is or is he trying to find *now* a viable RJ that will not disappoint us too much?

In the second case there is not much we can guess and we can only wait. And hope not to be very disappointed.

In the first case, where he planned a smart plot carefully and planted elements around the whole five seasons, we can try to find who RJ is. I really hope this is the case of course.

In that case, I am pretty sure that Heller wrote the main RJ storyline without leaving the job to his other screenwriters. My theory is that we should filter the seven suspects against this 17 episode list. I would dare to add that RJ was introduced in one of these episodes!

Let me play this game, here is the list of Heller's related episodes:

"Pilot": introduced Brett Partridge

"Red Hair and Silver Tape": introduced Sheriff Thomas McAllister

"Red John's Friends"

"Carnelian, Inc."

"Red John's Footsteps"

"Redemption"

"Black Gold and Red Blood"

"Code Red"

"Red Sky in the Morning"

"Red Sky at Night": introduced Gale Bertram

"Red Moon"

"Strawberries and Cream"

"Scarlet Ribbons"

"Cheap Burgundy"

"The Crimson Hat"

"The Crimson Ticket": introduced Reede Smith.

"Red John's Rules"

Surprise surprise!

Bret Stiles, Ray Haffner, Bob Kirkland were introduced in episodes not written and not directed by Heller! I really think we can exclude them because of this.

So the original 7 persons list could be reduced to:

Brett Partridge
Sheriff Thomas McAllister
Gale Bertram
Reede Smith

Since Reed Smith was introduced just a few episodes ago and McAllister has been a very minor character, I would dare to reduce the list to

Brett Partridge
Gale Bertram

I am a bit disapponited by both of them :-(

Now I just have to guess...

Brett has been a major suspect (the one that even my mom would suspect from episode one...) so to get at least a bit of surprise I would say that Heller went for GALE BETRAM.

Awful, but I fear that can be the result. After many years of guessing... :-(

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BULLSHIT !!!...the 7 suspects list? i don't buy it...5x22 Patrick says-" i've narrow it down to all men that could've possibly been in all of red john's murder sites." REALLY?...REALLY? in order for this to be true doesn't make sense that jane has to have proof that this seven could've been there.HONESTLY PEOPLE look at the 7 suspects you mean to tell me people than only appeared in 1 or 2 episodes could've been in all of rj murder sites?people like the sherriff or reid smith..THAT'S JUST INSULTING.WALTER MASHBURN makes more sense in more ways than one than these 2.so you're telling me somebody like kirkland,stiles, or even gale bertram were there and patrick has proof that there might have been there when rebeca was killed?...or for that matter any of this 7 could just travel anywhere any time they wished whenever rj killed somebody far away like the guy in tijuana or the reporter outside of california?...come on !!....somehow i don't see stiles,gale,...or kirkland going anywhere any time they wished because of their jobs and busy schedule...patrick also viewed the recording on the dvd long before he showed it to lisbom,is safe to think that something else could have been on the dvd after all it was meant for patrick ,which would make sense for him to break it before lisbon or anybody else sees it.and kept the info to himself.YOU HAVE TO SEE THE MENTALIST WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.if you are one of those people that say...""'rj can't be stlies ,he's too old because rosalind said...." or "bruno heller said patrick is not red john "...YOU CAN'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING!..is a mistery drama tv show...and if you watched any mistery,or who done movie for the past 15 or 20 years...when the killer is revealed is was most likely somebody nobody suspected..WHO YOU ASK?it could be anybody?man or woman patrick or lisbon or somebody else...all they have to do is add a few twists and fixed loose ends from previous seasons...and then you'll go back and watch others seasons and say.." of course it all makes sense,how i didnt see it before,they sure fooled me! ".....I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING..a lot of RED JOHN murders seemed to happen during the night,there's one guy that has a hard time sleeping....by the way have we ever seen what he actually does during the night??my theory is not red john's identity...i'm just saying WE can't believe everything we see...somebody asked heller " everything points to patrick being rj or having a sptit personality is patrick red john? he answered " patrick jane is not red john "...come on people..heller is going to say "patrick could be rj " !-it would take part of the fun out of the show. 2-it would take attention away from the other suspects 3.rating would go even lower.4heller would loose money..5 if in fact for some reason he is revealed as rd by the season 6 end..brunno had already milked the cow dry a)bruno is happy with all the money he made and b) audience is somehow happy that they were fooled thus making the mentalist and red john the greatest mistery ever.....HERE'S ANOTHER POINT...before the end of the season finale patrick says to lisbon...' i've narrow it down to 7 suspects...then almost at the end he get the video and gets to see it way before lisbon so... 1.what if patrick came up with more than 7 let's say for the sake of argument 8 suspects and lied to lisbon and we all know she can't tell when he is lieing...after all it took him a whole week to figure it out unlike red john.2-.patrick was able to pick the photos only rj figured out and keep any other to himself...if patrick would have told lisbon the list when he wanted to when they went to see the woman patrick wouldn't be able to switch the photos because lisbon would have known....i'm not acussing patrick..i'm just saying he is the perfect suspect,,among a lot of reasons..PATRICK JANE IS IN ALL OF THE EPISODES.RED JOHN AS PATRICK JANE IS LIKE WALDO ....happy hunting !! and dont forget to pay atention and don't believe everything you see or hear.

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