Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Hey gu ys! What if the 'happy memory' is a fake? I mean of course he met the woman Lili but may be this is not a happy memory although by chance , randomly,someone that he met as young. So may be he invented the quote of happy memory because he already yave recorded with Lorelei the video, with the seven suspects, etc and that's the reason of the mention of the happy memory and the list. He has all planned for kidding us and Lisbon may be because he wants to protect her or may be because he suspects she is an RJ accomplice. So for any of those reasons he has made the video and invented the 'happy memory'

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Red John is Brett Partridge
A lot of theory say that. I few times though Patrick jane was Red John but no... Lorelei Martin could have get him easily and so many other contradiction...

The list of the name is "guessed" by RJ? well someone spying hard on patrick could have find the list and read it... or anyone with access to the Bob "copy" of Patrick could have guessed...

But WHO the hell could know about the happy memories (from the S05E22) ??
If someone got a plausible answer, he is Really welcome ! Because i don't know how Brett could have know this (and i would really be disapointed if Brett is RJ... not a fun character/he isn't here a lot...)

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Sheriff Thomas McAllister!

Introduced so early and neat. The age description on RJ fits him best. Also the height feels about right.
We got the "he is mar"(shall). We know RJ easily can access Police Uniforms.
(when he poison that whore of a secretary killing boscow)
We know he got ties and friends in law enforcement.
He is set to return in season 6. Who else could it be?

Patridge? Too obvious
Stiles? Too old too connected with both RJ AND PJ and too focused in the series
Haffner? Maybe but hes young RJ was a close friend to Dumars father.. and dumar is about the same age as Haffner.
Smith? Who's that? hes too fat.
Kirkland? To obvious i get a vigilante vibe about him, either he works solo or he will get killed by RJ.
Bertram? Faking hes superbad poker/deceptiveskills? Pulling off that inspiring speech when boscow with crew got killed?Nah.

Mcallister prolly is RJ with hes most usefull asset somewhere within the CBI core.



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Ok so this is not a theory on who is RJ but more of how the hell did he do that? and my theorys on them...

The happy memory thing?... must be when PJ was in mental hospital he must have been heavily sedated at some point & can not remember telling that doctor Sophie Miller about it. Or he was hypnotised in there by someone.  Its the only way!! people can not see or read your mind thoughts.  Rj is a very clever cunning psychopathic killer yes but not superhuman. got to be simple answer.

knowing the whole 7 list thing...? this im not sure on and this is a bit of a long shot but if i had to take a guess the only way i can see how RJ knew about Janes list is PJ  only started making his name list after Lorelei told him about the hand shake, so maybe she played him and this was RJ plan all along. If PJ can make a list in that amount of time then why can't the clever evil killer do so too.  Maybe lorelei was told by RJ to tell him that information, this would explain why she out lived any of his other follwers and why she was in jail for weeks and not 6 feet under. Maybe lorelei already knew rj killed her sister or even ask him to do it and she didn't care like she pretended too with those 2 people she tortured, it was all part of game to con Jane.  Why? Rj would want Jane to know this info I don't know? but maybe RJ just wants to end the game and kill him now.

I realise that is bit much and prob not even right but RJ and Jane are so alike & clearly intelligent and we all know that jane has no life these past 10 years and so anyone he shook hands with is cbi/work related (mainly) and RJ could easily windled down the list of 7 names like PJ has & he knew jane was trying to do so too. i think RJ may have come up with the 7 names before jane did and made that video then, before killing lorelei as she had served her purpose in his game.

I'm not saying i'm right but just wanted to share and this is what i'm thinking right now after series 5 and I'm sure when series 6 is back on I'll change my views or the writers will go down a totally differ route with the list thing and i'll be totally on the wrong path i'm sure.

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I'm choosing brett stiles and i'm sticking with him as being red john.
you might say but he is too old...or his voice doesn't match.,,
then explain to me why brett stiles is one of the 7 suspects
and not water washburn.
1.his body matches rj when he is talking to rosalind
and when says the tiger tiger poem in the season finale and we see his legs.
2.brunno heller said:rj is like waldo and some clues are fake.(IN SEPARATE interviews)
3.women do anything for rj...rosalind could've lied about
roy's tagliaferro physical description...
or roy could be one person
invented by rj..just like timothy carter...he only existed like for 5 or 9 nine
years before that timothy never existed.my guess is roy tagliaferro was only invented by rj in season 1 in order to lure patrick into the cabin,same way she lure patrick to the dvd.so in a way rj invented roys  name
and roys physical description so making rj a completely diferent person
 with different physical description thus making stiles and the sheriff
 being possible suspects.this is the
perfect disguies as most people wont think of him as red john.
4-his voice can be disguised with a voice changer or something
and get rid of the accent easyly as him being a showman
with a strong sense of theater...simon does..he gets rid of the
australian accent at will have you seen of of his interviews?
5.when he meets patrick in season 2 they dont shake hands but
they treatened each other..jane even says to his face
that he is a big fat liar.so they were not friends.
6.i never really understood the reason behind the whole hightower fiasco
until i saw red all over episode.stiles was really pissed at patrick
and especially hightower and even told her not to push her luck.
and we all know what rj does when he is pissed...he kills.
which explains why she was framed in the todd johnson case.
6."i wouln't want you to mistake me for red john and shoot me " 4x16
7.bruno heller "we're not bringing in an unknown actor or a midrange
actor to play red john. nobody in the 7 suspects list comes
even to close to Malcolm McDowell's talent.
8.4x16 patrick-you always manipulate somebody to doing your dirty work.(just like rj)
       stiles--something you would know  a little bit about,
       getting red john to killing the san joaquin killer
       that was very nice almost elegant i must say.
       tell me how is rosalind harker enjoying life under
        fbi protection.is she glad that you brought rj
        back into her life.
9..rj doesn't have friends he has puppets,rj doesn't
   makes mistakes if he gives you a clue is not what
   does it mean ,but why did he gave it to you.rj or brett stiles
   plan all along was to used rosalind or brainwash her so when the time came
 of patrick searching for rj rosalind would give patrick a fake clue.
roy's tagliaferro physical description.
10..4x16 " i don't own any properties certainly not under my name "
11..4x16 watch the scene when brett is talking to valpelt in the cell,
    same shoes and legs or body like rj.
12.brett knew about vanpelts landlord,just like shawn barlow knew
   about lisbon's feelings for patrick (powers)brett could've
   easily find patrick's happy memory WATCH THE SCENE 4X16
people seem to believe everything they see...as seen in 4x16 stiles
is always hidding something or not telling everything as seen when he
is talking to his lawyer....also patrick isn't always telling everything and
keeps information to himself even from lisbon....also some people seemed
puzzled as to how rj got the info for in order to figure out the suspects...
to me i dont thing he got it from kirkland...the minute he killed the guy in the
hospital he came off of my list,i think he has a different agenta or motives
for killing the guy...think about it who is close to patrick jane and has been
asking time and time again about the list ever since patrick started writting
on the notebook?we all know she doesn't have a poker face.as they are getting close to rj it is clear that she has a connection to rj and has tried to hide for a long long time as she stated she has many secrets odds are 100 to 1 she will make a mistake next time she is around gale bertram...how did rj knew about the list??????
somebody had to seen all the red john files way before kirland either by entering the room before kirkland,or placing cameras OR MY FAVORITE THEORY as far as i know only TWO persons had all the red john files at one point or another....SAM BOSCO AND fbi agent Luther wainwright...he looked very suspicious when he had the files in his office..so he could have kept the info and shared this with rj way before he was killed....so rj had plenty of time to gather the clues and figure it out.so rj had the files for a long time and as soon as he knew about patrick making a list he started putting the clues together way before patrick did.....makes sense to me.


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I see that people are talking about PJ's brother Jimmy. I think it was a made-up story by Jane just to mess around with Dr. Wagner. Did I miss something? I mean does anyone have a firm clue that Jimmy actually exists? This information can change everything. Can anyone tell me for sure please???

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This isn't a theory ... I would just like to say that i'm having a couple of problems buying the last episode ...
First ... The list ...
Well ... How could RJ get precisely the same list as Jane???
And how come, in jane's list, there's no one from his carnies days or from his psychic days??
He said that the list had the only 7 people that could have been in every crime places ... Really ???
Nobody from his preview life (before CBI) could have been in every crime scene????
But ... continuing ... In the Red Barn episode, we heard, and so did jane, from a priest that a "kid" was painting the smiling face .... Well that was in 1988 ... So the person would have to be 30 (TOPS) in those days ... Well ... Jane knows this ... but RJ didn't know this ... So i can understand why stiles is in RJ's list ... What i can't understand is why is he in Jane's list ... He is too old !!!!!
And ... Last but not least ... How could ANYONE know that Lily Barlow was a happy memory for jane if he didn't tell anyone?????
I guess he could have told in the carnies days or in the asylum but ... Wouldn't he remember telling??
I mean, really people, think a little bit?? Does anyone know who is and who is not in your memories??
Nobody can know that if we don't tell them ... Not our parents, our siblings or our best friends ...
Because, we all have had several happy moments in the past ... And sometimes we don't even know why we remember one more than another ... So how could someone else do it ???

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