Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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If it's someone from the list it's Partridge gotta be  i suspected him after rewatching the pilot episode but dissmised it when he didn't appear again in the first season   when he popped up in the season 2 finale (a red john ep written by bruno heller) my radar went off and in season 5 he showed up in two episodes(on a red john season finale ep written by bruno heller) an all my suspicions were confirmed by just the fact that Partridge is on jane's list   and he's the only one the show hasn't hinted  is red john       everone else is either too obvious or not obvious at allI've got every season on dvd and have watched every episode at least 3 times each the more i think about it the more i'm convinced Red John is more than one person(a cult within Visulize?) and is heavily involved with Visulize (mentored by or working for Bret Stiles) 1-Stiles' knowledge of Red John    2-Red John's accomplices appear cult like  3-Visulize has members in the CBI  4-The smiley face on the barn at the Visulize farm       
Red John has a connection to Jane's carni past  1-there's a reason Red John hasn't killed jane  2-maybe knows or is Jane's Dad or brother in law Danny 3- could be related to someone the Jane's ripped off 4- the knowledge of Jane's happy memory 5- Shaun Barllow seems to know a lot about red john and describes jane's dad as wicked  
 
 it's not one one of the guys on the list   every possible Red John reveal has been a fake out this is just another cock tease another ploy by jane so red john will let his guard down    It's gonna be dissapointing if it is just one of the seven people on the list     it's gonna b more than one person or someone not on the list #1-Janes dad #2-Mashburn #3-Minnelli #4-Christine Frye #5-That blind chick is not blind  lol

But still . . .revealing Red John has been Jane all along would make this the greatest show ever going back and rewatching every ep knowing jane is really red john would b crazy



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                What immortal hand of eye could frame thy fearful simetry?

      Teresa lisbon                                                                 The Red john is  

   Te resa lisbon                    ------                 ------                  The Red lobn is
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Tse rea lisbon                      ¿                            ?                      The Red lbon is
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   Tse Rea lisbon                           -----------                              The Red lisbon
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         The Rea lisbon                                                            The Rea lisbon

Is simply clever and would be the most tragic ending ever written...what think ye?

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Theory #3658 • By Red Jordan
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If Red John isn't 1 of the 7 suspectsI think the coolest and most shockng reveal would be. . . . . . . . . . .  PATRICK JANE !!!!The only person on the show that has Red John's abbilities or powers is Jane and both times we hear Red John's voice (if u listen closely) it's Jane's(Simon Baker) voice just with the pitch turned up. Jane is always tired and sleping during the day maybe because he's up all night as Red John.   i wanna see in the Season 6 finale it's revealed to the audience but not the characters in the show that Jane is Red John. Season 7 shows Jane as both himself and Red John     How awesome would it be if Jane is the mastermind behind Visulize  In the last two minutes of the series Lisbon discovers Jane is the real red john Jane kllls Lisbon series ends with Jane making the Red John smiley face while the red john theme muisic plays. . fade to black                                                                                                 BOOM!! just blew your mind anything short of that will be dissapointing   LOLI have a feeling red John is more than one person
or its a multigenerational thing like father/son team (Stiles/Partridge, Jane's Father/Partridge)
But if it's one of the seven suspects it's gotta be Partridge. all the other posts have listed all the evidence that it is Partridge but not the motive why Jane?  I think it wil be revealed that he is:--- from Jane's carni past (unknown step brother, Father's new protege/partner) ---Has a history with Visulize  also mentoed by Brett Stiles ...all Red John female accoplices have that cult follower feeling (suicide insted of capture)                               I want it to be Jane or more than one person  So excied at the thought of finding out who is Red John by the end of next season  hope it isn't a fake out or a giant dissapointment like evrything else except HBO's The Wire and Game of Thrones           

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Okay. We all know the poem that Red John recites to Patrick in the Finale of season 2. It's a part from the poem "The Tyger" by William Blake. I was just re-watching Episode 16 of season 3. And Gale makes a reference that goes as, "When thy little heart doth wake, Then the dreadful night shall break.", which is a part of the poem "Cradle Song" also by William Blake. He also says that he likes the poem. So maybe the appreciation that Red John and Gale Bertram share for William Blake is an indication as to who he really is?

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I'll make some guesses about who's who by generating ideas which solely binds me but maybe some people might agree...

Red John: Complicated. How? He seems to be a master-mind of crime as well as the cover-ups by highly smart moves that nobody could catch him so far. He is also a great manipulator/mentor who controls many people by means of persuasion? hypnosis? threat? blackmail? whatever you call it, people die for him intentionally. We see this pattern in some terrorist organizations but even in those, people may kill themselves under drugs mostly. However, RJ disciples reflect more of a sane pattern which makes us think that they are not drugged but they are somehow influenced. So, I am asking myself: How come such a crime-artist / well-organized brain can get so aggressive and stupid enough to kill people who just insult him? You don't expect such a temper from a man like this. It seems like an instant and not well-thought behavior which is almost amateur act to me. I can't just combine these 2 qualities (mastermind / jumperboy) together in one man. This is why I think there are 2 characters making the concept Red John a whole. There is one orchestrator and one killer (besides the accomplices). Perhaps the mastermind and psycho killer are having argumentations on each other's acts to eliminate contradictions. However, this only happens when there are serious contradictions. Otherwise, there's a master plan and they both pursue a unique goal by their own ways. For instance; maybe the mastermind got mad at the psycho about why he killed Jane's daughter where it was totally sufficient to kill his wife and let the girl wake up in a blood bath. And the psycho retorted that the girl got awake during her mother's killing so it was inevitable to silence her too. This kind of stuff I mean.

STILES: He has a bound with RJ as they were sharing a common context before things get ugly between them. They are both dangerous and equals by many aspects. So, they still have an understanding. RJ never intrudes Stiles' area except for some little touches (using Visualize resources from time to time), and in return, Stiles doesn't reveal who RJ is yet feels confident enough to share some little info with his rivals (Jane for instance). He actually told Jane that he knows everything about RJ but there is a certain limit to what he can reveal. Seeing this, I think it can be safe to say that Stiles has a history and an ultimate understanding/a silent agreement with RJ. Both being equally dangerous can be seen from the fact that Stiles is still alive despite he gave Jane an advantage at some point by letting him know where Frye was. Was it an order given by RJ? I don't think so. Will they be coming to a point where they have to fight? Maybe. Maybe the Visualize coup was a warning by RJ to Stiles telling him that he has to behave (against his revelation of Frye's location). See? No direct action but cold war between the two. Hostility and mutual respect is also there. And Stiles wouldn't show this courtesy to a simple psycho killer I believe. There must be a higher path.

I don't know if I should nominate certain characters who's the mastermind and who's the psycho killer. To be honest, I am guessing that the killer is Partridge but I haven't figured out who the mastermind is. Having Brett as the killer will make sense to most people which will also come with a great disappointment for the show but the show will pull it together with the reality that it's not over yet and that there's a bigger picture. That's where the excitement will arise again. This is what I think will happen. Enjoy it fellas... 




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I believe it's Kirkland.

The on-screen handshake was visible, and slightly awkward.

His agents broke into Jane's "office" and photographed his research, allowing him to easily "predict" Jane's 7 final suspects.

He knows Jane was in a mental hospital.  During his stay, Jane likely told his doctors about his "happy memory", so all Kirkland had to do was request the doctor's files in the name of homeland security.

If I were Jane, I'd organize a meeting of the 7 of them at CBI HQ, and have the blind woman pop out of a door and identify Roy Tagliafero.

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