Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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This is why I don't think Red John could be Bob Kirkland. It's very simple really; before Red John killed Lorelei, he already knew the 7 names Jane had narrowed down - this goes without a doubt, or else how did he make the video? Bob Kirkland and his team broke into Jane's aerie to collect what information he had on Red John after Lorelei's death; if Kirkland is Red John, what would be the use in breaking in and seeing what Jane knows if Kirkland already knew the 7 suspects?

Someone else here mentioned that Sheriff McAllister couldn't be Red John because he would have known that Van Pelt worked in CBI when he approached her in S1E2. So obviously Jane's list is bullshit. So who wouldn't know that his list is bull? That's gotta be Red John.

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I'm torn between two possibilities which are as follows:

1) The list is a complete fake. Jane made this list accessible together with the information about his "happy memory" to lure out Red John.  

The whole show is based on the mind games between Patrick and Red John.  They are involved in this long battle trying to outwit each other and Red John is clearly threatened as he has people spying on Patrick and on the CBI team.  Patrick could have told different people different things and waited to see what combination of things come back via Red John and like that pin point it on someone. 

But, on the other hand would Jane give out names and see who Red John murders to pin point it on someone? Would he play with lives like that? If he did he would at least have kept an eye on those he named. In any event I believe all the names on the list are wrong. Which brings me to my second theory...

2) Red John is Patrick Jane's father.

I hate to go all "Luke I am your father" with this but this is the only way I can explain it.  Red John is competing with Jane.  Red John is old. He is manipulative. He was in visualize long ago. I am saying this a bit unsure but didn't Brett Stiles mention that he knows Patrick's father? I am not sure now whether that happened or whether I am imagining that.

He fits the bill.  He is the only one who could know who Jane liked back at the carnival.  He is Jane's "maker".  He could have murdered Jane's family because Jane ran away with his wife from the carnival, in other words she took him away from his father and they were making lots of money together.  He knows Jane and how to get to Jane.  He was cold hearted and he was ruthless.

If you exclude all other story lines and look at this and this alone you will realize it matches quite nicely.  We were never told what happened to Jane's father.  And this is the one theory that has never been laid to rest.

As for the whole hand shaking thing, it could still match up.  It could just be a saying Lorrelei used. It could even be something Red John wanted her to say, he is obviously toying with Patrick. When he mentions this in the video and the list of suspects he words it in a mocking way.  And the video where they sell the "magic crystal" to the sick girl shows how easily his father can lead anyone into a state of trust and security.

I stand by this theory, his father is Red John. I'd like to know your opinions please. 

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Since Patrick Jane already knew he was being watched ,why would he give his observers real information if he could just trick them.

I think the list of 7 is fake.

Jane knows who is Red John, because the happy memory was in fact a trap ,Jane gave to each of his suspects different information about childhood memory's, all well disguised, and RJ revealed himself by killing the girl. Jane tricked him because he knew Red John wouldn't resist such opportunity.
 


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This is not a theory but more of an observation. Based on PJ recollection, we can see that he enters his home but there is not sign of broken entry. In fact in his memory, he only discovers his wife and child dead body once he enters the room.
Would this be a clue that his wife might have known RJ or that it would be someone she would trust(Law enforcement officer) to let that person in. Also it would be explain that RJ knows about the childhood memory if it were someone she knew but not so much a a law enforcement officer.  Was it ever explained how RJ entered PJ's home? 
Let me know what you think.

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It could really be anyone which is the infuriating/addictive thing.  of the 7 on the list Ray Haffner ticks the most boxes for me

-similar to Harkers description
-member of visualize and right age to draw the face on the barn
-connected with Stiles as above
-he  is introduced as making his career off surveilance cases. Think the wire tap in the girls room at the end of the first series. Red John constantly seems to be a step ahead. Surveillance skills would surely help here
-was a member of the FBI and CBI

There are other guys i would say are right up there. Ellis Mars is one. Minelli another and Sheriff McAllisters inclusion on the list puzzles and intrigues me. If i had to pick one person i would say its Mars. If the list is right, Haffner.

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Just a theory but I think we can eliminate Bob Kirkland from the suspect list.
Why? Well first because it would be too obvious, i mean, Bruno Heller clearly wants us to see him as a suspect and it would be way too easy.
And the second thing is related to the "killing in the hospital" part. It doesn't fit RJ MO, I mean, killing like this is almost too soft for RJ (remember when he killed loreleil, it was supposed to be a "soft murder" because he liked her).
And here, Bob Kirkland just kills in the hospital, with people around and no blood, it does not look like Red John at all.

Let me know what you think about it!

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I don`t understand. Why is Sheriff McAllister a suspect? I don`t say he couldn`t be Red John, but I don`t know what made Jane think that McAllister could be RJ. He appears in an episode which has nothing to do with Red John and, yes, he has  weird behavior. His attitude with Van Pelt made us all believe that he could be the killer (who murdered that girl from the 2nd episode), but I think no one found any link between him and RJ.
I mean, if he is RJ, he most certainly does know that Van Pelt works with the CBI. The whole scene on that road when his harrases Van Pelt would make no sense, since he knows very well that she and Rigsby are part of Jane`s team. So which could be the link?
What made Jane put him on the list? This isn`t a random choice, that`s obvious, but I just can`t see the reason.

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