I think red john is Bret Stiles. (;
I think red john is Bret Stiles. (;
I think that red john is a group and not a person and the leader of this group is bret stilles and the group members are brett patridge maybe he is the son of stiles , ray haffener ,bob krikland .
Bruno Heller said we can trust the list. I think Patrick has got an other list,the real one.
He is Mar was written on the wall. If the R was an unfinished S this leads us straight to mashburn.
In the first episode mashburn appears in he says "If you plan it right you can get away with murder" and " Next time I might be the killer."
He seems suspicious.
Episode 6x18, Behind the red curtains.. Kirkland asks to Lorelei's surviving victim (cant remember his name) if he recognizes him and that he is his friend.. And then kills him! Though it makes me think he his RJ, it would be way too obvious!
So I'm thinking that he is doing the job for someone else.. And do you remember few episodes before when Kirland and Bertram in the office say that they can't trust anyone, referring to Lisbon?
So RJ may be Gale at the end!
Did anyone notice in "Red John's Rules" that when the assistant asked Partridge, "he (Red John) killed just recently didn't he?" Patridge then got very serious and replied with, "no, that was an internal issue. Lorelei Martins was one of his own people; it doesn't count."
I found this to be a strange but also interesting response. Red John thinks of himself as an artist. He takes pride in his victims, and due to Lorelei digging into the Miranda issue, killed her because of that. As she was one of his people, he might not have counted this. If Partridge is indeed Red John, he would feel the need to correct the assistant when he brought up the fact that Red John had killed recently. If he is not Red John, wouldn't a simple, "yes, he murdered one of his own people" suffice?
I've seen a lot of theories about Lorelei not actually being dead, BUT, for the sake of this idea, let's pretend she definitely is dead. What do you all think of Patridge's statements?
Red John can't be Gale Bertram because he is bald and according to Rosalind Harker's definition, she said Roy has short straight hair. Can't be Bob Kirland because it does not make any sense, why would he broke into jane's work place and steal information (about who red john is) if he is Red John himself? besides he did it after Lorelei died. I think Bret Stiles is kind of old so is sheriff Mcallister (at least on my opinion, i think Rosalind Harker would've said if red john was that old). this left us 3 suspects, and i think Reede Smith and Brett Partridge are too young, so in my opinion Ray Haffner is Red John, he is in visualized and he was involved in the Red Barn Case...
Why i am confused
How can patrick go through hundreds of suspects and know only 7 of them could be RJ?
Sorry, but I just don't think that is realistic.
I know heller said that jane isnt RJ, which I agree. Patrick jane is the character we all love. Red John is Janes other personality, which is nothing like Patrick. Thats why heller says patrick isn't RJ.
The voice of RJ in the season 4 finale is obvioulsy Patricks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_CK_90hei0
And I don't think RJ is psychic.