RIGSBY IS REDJOHN!!!!
RIGSBY IS REDJOHN!!!!
Have been thinking this through, probably more than I should, and this is what I came up with so far:
1) It is Bret Stiles' long "lost" partner from back in the day when they were putting Visualize together. I think that Stiles himself tried to end the menace called Red John in the early days by attempting to kill him, but failed to do so.
Why? -In the beginning of season 5 we saw what probably is the first act of Red John - the killing of 2 Visualize members, which have set him on a revenge course against his buddy Stiles. Now, once he was almost caught in the basement with the bodies (the daughter of the vet said that she thought someone was watching them there) he realized that he cannot do what he's set out to do by himself, therefore recruiting men and women willing to join his cause. Then he realized that the "petty" dream of chasing his arch enemy was nothing compared to what he can now accomplish with the army of people he amassed (practically gaining the same thing Bret stripped him of), he gave up on chasing Stiles and devoted himself to do the one thing that fulfills him the most - kill.
Most likely suspect: Sheriff McAllister. If my "memory palace" is as good as i think it is, someone informed Jane that Bret's partner was killed, but soon after, the sheriff who was investigating was found dead. My theory - the partner escaped Stiles, killed the sheriff, then assumed the role of sheriff himself, in order to keep some track of what's going on, without having to rely on anyone else. Also, he creeped my pants off when he was insisting that Van Pelt should go with him way back in season 1.
2)I strongly believe that the given list is in fact not the precise one. Notice how Jane smiles when his Red John HQ was raided? He was certainly expecting someone to break in, hence the toothpick, but in my opinion he is throwing everyone off, giving them more names than he has picked off, while he continues pursuing his 2-3 targets with less interruptions. We know that Bob Kirkland copied the contents of the room, so when season 6 comes through I expect to find him dead, as he was unable to provide Red John with the full extent of Jane's insights, so he had to go through other people to get what he needed. Also, Lorelei's stutter while mentioning Ray Haffner's name is probably caused by the fact that she knows he is already dead.
3)
- Brett Partridge is also not RJ, he is enthusiastic about death and violence because it's in his nature, but, as they say, barking dogs seldom bite;
- Gale Bertram is a high-ranking disciple of the RJ, but not the man himself, he gets easily annoyed when he's not the smartest person in the room, and usually presents that in a way that it's hard not to notice;
- Ray Haffner is an idealist, he thinks that he can profit while being involved with Visualize, which will probably lead to his demise not long from now.
- Reede Smith is unlikely to be someone of the caliber of Red John, simply because he was incompetent enough to be interrogated on the subject of RJ by the CBI, to which as a defense he could only provide vague answers.
If luck serves me like always, none of the above will turn out right, but right now, this is my perspective of things.
Guys i finally figured out who Red john is. Take his initials.............. R.J
Only 1 guy comes to mind, Ron Jeremy. He did some pretty graphic stuff,google him.
I believe he is RJ. During the season 1 episode 11 "Red John's Friends", Minelli took a 'vacation', and suddenly CBI gets communication from RJ? How convenient. Also, when Minelli left Rosalind after drinking tea, the figure of RJ looked like him.
Minelli knows how to charm older women, as he is middle aged himself. His eyes, actually look quite evil.
Also, Bob Kirkland could be Lorelei Martin's brother, wanting to avenge her and his dead sister, since they all look hispanic.
Therefore he gave RJ's accomplice a death he could not fight off, painless but the fact that he couldn't stop him from injecting that substance must have felt great great vengeance.
Also, BK asked: "Do you recognise my face?" Because RJ's accomplice at the hospital knows Lorelei Martin, and her sister, but perhaps not the brother, him.
BK hates RJ.
Minelli is RJ. He too shook hands with Patrick in a flashback episode in season 5.
Reed Smith, and the Sheriff? Oh come on, they were jus random cameo appearances.
Do you guys remember Sophie Miller....?
Jane told to Lisbon alone that she (sophie) helped him after the death of his wife and daughter.
I strongly think that Lisbon is accomplice to RJ..
Lisbon passed on the info about sophie to RJ...RJ wud ve easily got all the happy memories from her using his skills....and that is why RJ came to know about Jane's happy memories...
End of story....
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but did anyone notice a HUGE clue at Lorelei's death scene? I missed it the first time too but last night it nearly smacked me in the face!!!
As Jane and Lisbon are walking up to the area where Lorelei was found...what do they walk past? Old CARNIVAL equipment! Carousel horses, posters, tents... I also believe Lorelei was lying on top of what looked to be a stage that's used in side shows with a canvas-y type of drape around her.
Forgive me if this was brought up before or mentioned in an episode following but I seemed to have missed it. I do know that there is an episode regarding PJ's time in the carnival and how a "happy memory" was taken from him by Red John but I don't remember it having anything to do with Lorelei's death. Maybe, just maybe this is a clue?
I definitely think Jane's past has SO MUCH MORE DO WITH THIS!!!!
While Brett may be the most likely suspect i'm wary because its usually someone you least expect, for example no one really new the killer would be Detective Miller's husband in Broadchurch until the final episode.
Most the evidence points to him but i'm guessing there's going to be a big twist and its someone we least expect.
It's clearly not Patrick, how could he save himself in the series 2 finale ?
Roll on Season 6 !!