Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I have been watching since day 1 (and have owned and watched all seasons multiple times). I've followed this site for a while all while watching the show, and it's been fun reading everyone's theories! Most people (ahem, most) have good food for thought even if I disagree. 

I have thought that Red John is Brett Partridge for a long time. I initially thought it was Brett simply because he has been there for every Red John impostor scenario. He pushes and pushes that the murder "is obviously Red John" when it is clear its an impostor - See S1.E1 (Pilot), S2.E23 (Red Sky In the Morning).

Red John is experienced, yes, no arguing that. There was a while where I thought Brett Partridge might be too young. But judging by the little snippets of video we get from S2.E8 (His Red Right Hand) when we flash back to him with Carter and Janet Peak, as well as Rosalind Harker's description from S1.E23 (just under six feet tall, with short, straight hair, not muscular but not soft, with strong hands), as well as his size from S2.E23 (Red Sky In the Morning) from when we see him with Jane, we know that he's a thin guy, not tall or large. 

The episode where I believe to be the most evidence is actually this past season, S5.E13 (Red Barn). 

I believe Brett Partridge is Bret Stiles' son. And I believe that he is a Visualize member gone rogue, during his stint at the farm that is reflected on in this episode. I believe this is why Bret Stiles claims to know more than Jane or Red John will ever know (S3.E3 - The Blood on His Hands) and he knows somewhat, what Red John's moves are and will be, but not enough to catch Red John, and since he is his son, another reason why he may not want to give him up. I also find it interesting that although their names are spelt different, they have the same name. 

I think this also makes sense with the infamous "He is Mar" which I believe to be "He is Many". Signifying a group and not just one. Though RJ himself is one (and how incredibly lame it would be if it were more than one) I think that this for me was my first clue after looking back that Visualize plays a role in this somehow, with a member gone rogue. 

For anyone arguing that Brett Partridge isn't 'important' enough in the CBI - If you watch S2.E8 - His Red Right Hand - at the end of the episode, we see someone walk down the corridor whom Rebecca smiles at as if he is Red John. If this was someone more important, he wouldn't be wearing a policeman's uniform, and people would have recognized him leaving after he poisoned her. He had to be just unrecognizable enough to do that without being questioned by anyone in the building in any way, but recognizable enough to get CBI access. I also think that Red John is the kind of character who likes to hide among the "average" and not stand out as an important person in the CBI, sort of hiding in the shadows I suppose.

A few small notes:

-I think that Van Pelt has been hypnotized in some way. She is left alone with Bret Stiles during his small stint in holdings S4.E16 (His Thoughts were Red Thoughts) and after this she has somewhat of a rosy view on Visualize. In S5.E13 (Red Barn) she's speaking to the pastor about the cult, and says something odd about Visualize (off the top of my head, something like "What's wrong with wanting to be the best version of yourself you can be ::smile::") and the pastor gives her a funny look, almost like she is a part of Visualize or something. I don't think she is a RJ accomplice, but I think that this will play into the story somehow.

-I believe that even thought we left things at the end of S5 that Jane is "behind" Red John, I believe that this is a trick. I believe Jane is actually not behind him, and he is in front of him and it will be revealed at some point :) Just a hunch, since Jane always makes everyone think he is behind the game when really he's right in front of it.

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I don't know who Red John is but I do know that it is not Brett Patridge, why? you may ask, well here's why.

It has been stated that by the end of episode 1 of the new season the list of Red John suspects will be down to 6 people, so 1 suspect will be eliminated during the season opener. When we look at the suspects that are going to appear in the episode we will find that there will be Bertram and Patridge. Since Bertram is still alive after this episode (he will appear in episode 2 and is currently filming episode 5; source Michael Gastons twitter) it is pretty obvious that Patridge will be elmininated somehow during the episode. 


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       I'm sure by now everyone has heard the theory about the "Red Shirt Guy" who is sitting in the food court during the final episode of season 3.  If you're not familiar with this theory click this first link. It's a short video.

http://youtu.be/590v4FCm6WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590v4FCm6WU&feature=player_detailpage

    Now, what many of you may not know, is that this same man can be spotted in season 4 episode 9.
Around 35 secs into this video he is sitting on the roof top wearing a suit, while Jane and Lisbon enjoy their icecream.  This is obviously the same man. Short, dark hair. Medium build. Wearing a business suit......Oh did I mention the name of the episode is "THE RED SHIRT".  
           I would like to hear you all expand on this theory and share thoughts. And is that the CBI rooftop we see so much?  Anyway watch the clips and take a look.  Open two windows and take a look at the guy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAs5hLQftwI&feature=share&list=PL3A4A9B97CBA34A29
          

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Theory #4447 • By LuizDudu
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Season 1, 9th or 10th episode. When Patrick helps that guy to get out of jail, the guy runs away, goes to mexico and gets killed by red john. The guy wrote on the wall "He is Mar...", leaving Ellis Mars as the only one with name beginning with "Mar".

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Well , Im going to discover NOW who is Red John , so this is a VERY HUGE SPOILER

1- I have seen a photo where Reede Smith , Sheriff Thomas McAllister and Gale Bertram are with PJ but this says that they arent RJ. This photo is gonna be show on S6 E2.

So , if we count that , only this suspects are RJ-
-Brett PATRIDGE
-Bret STILES
-Raymond HAFFNER
-Bob KIRKLAND

2- Lorelei told PJ that RJ wasnt his friend since they shoked hands.So Bret Stiles isnt RJ

So now the list is - 

Brett PATRIDGE
Raymond HAFFNER
Bob Kirkland

3- RJ has 30 when he started to work on Vizualize.So Brett Patridge cant be ... he also didnt work on Vizualize.

So now the list is-
Raymond HAFFNER
Bob KIRKLAND

And the only one here that fits with all thew clues is ... RAYMOND HAFFNER. HE IS RED JOHN.

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Is that McAllister with Bertram in Season 6 ?

http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/images/the-mentalist/Season%206/Promotional%20Episode%20Photos/Episode%20...



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I made a discovery which will clear the air about this popular still from "His Red Right Hand: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7037/4sh2.png   While blurry there's resemblance to Jack Plotnick's slim elongated face and hooked nose. It's the type of fast paced action sequence where stunt people are used the majority of the time. After digging around a bit, I can categorically state that the face we get a glimpse of belongs to this stunts actor:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0189587/  (scroll down to see his credit from that episode). 

P.S. - I love Brett Partridge and wish he had a more regular role than the occasional crime scene cameo. 

P.P.S. Has anyone found out who plays the 'The man in the red sweater"? (I've IMDBed for him more than I care to admit)


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