Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I have done the theory #4446 (blablabla). But I have to correct many mistakes.First , im not going to pay attention to the photo I have seen. So lets discover who is RJ.

List of the SEVEN SUSPECTS:

-Brett Patridge
-Bob Kirkland
-Thomas McAllister
-Reede Smith
-Gale Bertram
-Bret Stiles
-Raymond Haffner

Clue #1: Red John kills people that investigate him. The only one that can do this is Patrick Jane.
So , if we count that , Bob Kirkland can´t be.
Now , the list is like this:

-Brett Patridge
-Thomas McAllister
-Reede Smith
-Gale Bertram
-Bret Stiles
-Raymond Haffner

Clue #2 Lorelei told Patrick that Red John hadn´t became friends since they shaked hands.So , Bret Stiles  cant be , because he is Patricks´s friend.
Now the list is:
-Brett Patridge
-Thomas McAllister
-Reede Smith
-Gale Bertram
-Raymond Haffner

Clue #3: Roselind Harker told Patrick that Red John is less than 6 fit tall:

Brett Patridge: 5 ´11
Thomas McAllister: 6
Reede Smith: 6´3
Gale Bertram:6´3
Raymond Haffner: 6´1

Only leaving:

Brett Patridge
Thomas McAllister

Clue #4: Red John´s best friend was a Sheriff (1x23) isnt it a coincidence that Thomas McAllister , one of the suspects , is a Sheriff. We dont know if he worked on Vizualize , so perhaps it could be Raymond Haffner.

BUT KNOW ... SHERIFF THOMAS MCALLISTER IS RED JOHN (OR RAYMOND HAFFNER)

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You know the part when he askes if he reconises him, "Its Important" what if Red John is wearing a mask/Plastic Surgery like CIA Agents do sometimes?

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Just a thought.I know most of you believe that Sheriff Thomas McCallister isnt RJ and if he is it will be dissapointing.Anyway i dont know if he is RJ indeed but im pretty sure that he isnt just a Sheriff.If you pay attention in the conversation between him and Van Pelt at s01e02 especially when he says "I think you are drunk Mrs" you will see a man that tries to seduce Van Pelt(i dont know the reason and thats the key).I dont know if eventually McCallister will be RJ but the fact that he is on the list isnt random at all.

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RJ WILL NOT LET PJ LEFT HIM AS A FOOL.

First episode of season 4 Jane fooled Haffner by changing the notebook, he cant be red john . Red john is way to intelligent and will never let that happen, i mean cmon rj has been always fooling jane and making creepy things.

He fooled thomas mcallister playing scissor paper stone.

Brett partridge also, he always is wrong , he says some theory about a murder and jane always corrects him.

Gale bertram needed help of jane to win in poker... Cmon really? Rj will never need help in nothing.

Bob kirkland ... WAY TOO OBVIOS ITS IMPOSSIBLE.

Reede smith .. Reslly? He ess slso fooled by jane snd fight teresa lisbon cho and rigsby, he will never go down to that level, he is way to elegant.

Stiles is the only one that could face jane and make him think, and if heller decides to put another one that is not in the list it eill make him a liar because he said that we must trust in the list.
Anyway i think he will make a awesoke rj appeareance!

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I was not a fan of red John =  bertram  because I don't see how a director of CBI may have time to be a killer but watch the last episode of season 3 after the 53 min, Bertram takes tea with a famous mug that can remember some memories.

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I want to introduce some new thoughts. I suspect Thomas McAllister, Reede Smith or Gale Bertram.

I think it is one of them because "the mentalist" is a tv-series ;).

The idea of the show is to mislead the viewer, surprise him and point out clues which lead to another misleading hints.

I assume that all hints to RJ from the show are true, and no false hints are set. So let's look at the other 4 other subjects


Brett Partridge
: He is way to creepy. Every fan who watched the show suspected him that he have done evil stuff from the first second, wheather in the RJ context or not. He is way to obvious. Furthermore RJ has to be older. He worked for Visualize 20 years ago at a farm, thus has to be between 20 and 30 at this time, thus 40 to 50 now. Perhaps older. So, Partidge is out.

Bret Stiles




and Ray Haffner
are old enough and worked for the cult organisation "Visualize". The "Visualize" connection would be the best bet for a real investigator.  Why is Jane not going to "Visualize", makes some crazy Jane stuff to break in and tries to find membership lists of the time? Or members which started the farm, or brought stuff to the farm? Or made the accounting for the farm? Why not asking the tax office for data from the time from this city? Or tries to ask questions to people from the city? Why is Bruno Hellers strory not following this excellent clue?

I guess because Mr. Heller wants us to follow this clue "on our own". We should suspect Ray or Bret just because of this hint. So: to obvious.

Bob Kirkland: too abvious. He already broke into Janes flat to find the evidence against RJ. RJ knows the list of 7. So, a real investigtor would ask: where does RJ get this information which only Jane can know and he wrote down once? And the first bet would be the guy who broke into the appartment and stole the stuff ;). Furthermore, he is now the main investigator of the RJ case. It would be ironic to be him RJ. So, a good suspect, thus a bad suspect.

Why this three?
Gale Bertram
: We already suspected him. It's a classic mentalist-show move to have a suspect, find clues that leads us away from this person, but at last, he's the killer. So, this would follow this figure Heller already used "against" the viewer of the show. Furthermore, Bertram is old enough.

Thomas McAllister: in the first moment the list of 7 was revealed I thought of ... who the fuck is this? I didn't remember him at all. Furthermore he has nothing to do with the CBI and the main characters. He is not the first subject, thus he is mine

Reede Smith: Well, he's the chubby guy and everyone thinks: "no, not the chubby kid" ;).
Remember the episode where the "retarded" guy set fire to kill the killers of his friend. Same figure in story telling.

Basically, the idea of this theory is to find the guys who are the most un-obvious and trying to understand what an author of the show is thinking. The authors want us to be surprised, to be mislead. So, find the guys you are not suspecting. And you have your killer ;).



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At the promos of the season 3 finale they said red john will face patrick in this episode...we all assumed that Carter was red john...but just minutes before confront carter he was with Bertram face to face...maybe he really face red john ( bertram ) but we all assumed it was carter...just an idea.
No one of the other suspects was on the episode....
Sorry for the mistakes english is not my first language

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