Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Don't think GVP is RJ but think she will lead us to him somehow.  Heller said "you will see the white whale" [for last season, meaning the killer will be out there] -- the "white whale" a reference to killer whale Moby Dick.  I realized that besides King Arthur references in the character names, there are Moby Dick themes, as well, in The Mentalist.  In MD, Ishmael, an outcast orphan [from Bible, too] joins Captain Ahab [who lost his leg to the "white whale killer"] on his ship out on the Pacific to find Moby Dick.  It's about an obsessive search for a killer in a sea of unknown -- and how revenge can destroy you [as Captain Ahab and his crew, but for Ishmael, go down trying to take the killer whale down].  Moby Dick is symbolic of fighting forces that are often beyond our control.  There's also a character, Elijah, in MD [and also from Bible, meaning Prophet] who tells Ishmael he mustn't have soul to go on this journey, and likens a soul to being a "FIFTH WHEEL ON A WAGON."  What's so interesting about all this is that there are many character names relating to: the SEA, WATER, CLIFF, ROCK, RIDGE, BOATS and WAGON MAKERS & REPAIRERS.  Is Van Pelt the "5th wheel" on the CBI team?  Did Ellis Mars [meaning Elijah: Prophet/War, Blood Red] predict something overlooked?  Maybe he will come back?  Interestingly, an anagram for Patrick Jane is "Captain Jerk" and the longest word found in Van Pelt's name is "parentage" -- her father is mentioned, and supposedly known by RJ associate and killer Craig O'Laughlin [whose name means Rocky Water/Lake] so I think Grace's father may become known or revealed this season, considering Van Pelt means "curer of animal hides," like Tanner [Orville & DuMAR Tanner], also RJ associates.  Van Pelt's family obviously has red hair somewhere down the line; her sister committed suicide and Jane says she's repressing a terrible memory.  She has a psychic aunt named Yolanda [which means Violet] -- there are just too many loose ends with VP, these all have to lead somewhere.  Now, I'm thinking Jane's Suspect List may have been his ploy to throw off "Roy" LOL and that it's been Van Pelt all along who is going to lead us to RJ [not that she knows it].

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Theory #4595 • By JMfan
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I think that Red John is somehow related to Van Pelt.
 My guess is that Red John is Van Pelts brother. Van Pelt has never said that she has no siblings so it's possible and Van Pelt doesn't really like to talk about her family. I think her brother did something bad (to her or someone else) and she doesn't want to think about him anymore. If my theory is true Red John must be someone who Van Pelt has just heard mentioned and never actually seen or who she has seen only a glipse of so she couldn't reconise him. He has brobably changed his name so he couldn't be so easilly reconised.
 In the episode 2/10, Throwing Fire, Van Pelt tells Rigsby she has no sister but at the same time she looks a little awkward like she was uncomfortable with the subject. There is definately something about her family that she doesn't want to talk about. I'm not sure if Van Pelt knows or suspects this somebody she knows (who ever it is) to be Red John, but I just think that Red John is somehow connected to Van Pelt weather she knows it or not.
 And Van Pelt has red hair and red is always a bad thing in Mentalist :D

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Sorry, after reading my rant I forgot to mention that I believe kirklands mother died or killed by him then he went with his father brett stiles to visualize or maybe stiles killed the mother. anyway please just look at the suspect picture of Kirkland and please tell me it doesn't look like the painted face!!!!  Brett Stiles is trying to protect his son, but like most parents you can only do so much and I finally believe that Stiles will kill his son, not jane.  I think he will be there at the end just when Kirkland is going to kill either or both jane and Lisbon and brett discusses the trial and tribulations of Kirklands wrong doings based on his mothers death and then just before he kills them, stiles kills Kirkland.  show over, everyone happy :)

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Don't know if he's RJ or related to RJ but I do think he'll be back: ELLIS (meaning PROPHET) MARS (WAR/BLOOD RED).

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Hi Guys and Girls, or should I just say fellow conspiracy theorists.

I love reading all the theories because I think bits and pieces of them lead right to the killer.
I think Brett Stiles has a part in this, and I believe the theory that he is the father of RJ.  I think Bret Partridge will be a most important part of the ending but not to what some think.  Ok, this is my theory based on what I have watched and what I have read from some very astute members of this blog, I feel that RJ is Kirkland for various reasons, one, being obvious is a great way of hiding the truth.  What I mean is most shows especially this one lead you to chase the least plausible suspect, hence Bret Partridge.  Kirkland killed Jason Lennon without asking him the most important question of all "who is RJ"?  Why? Also, Kirkland's team is the only ones present at the Lorilie Martins murder and Jane never checks the body and Partridge isn't at the scene either, don't you find that suspicious? Plus Martins eye isn't swollen or her arm isn't bandaged and there isn't even a sign that she was shot.  Maybe just a pas faux?  Another thing is Jane never locked his little hideout and the show specifically keyed on the lock as Jane left.  The voice you hear I believe is Bret Partridge because I feel he is a RJ puppet and if you listen to the voice close enough on the season 6 promo it is definitely his but I think what will happen is that RJ has Lisbon and makes Partridge call Jane, then kills partridge.  I suspect RJ either tricked Sofie Miller or she somehow is involved in spilling the beans on Janes happy memory, or maybe RJ just broke in and stole her notes.  Kirkland is creepy and if you look at him in the scenes his face closely resembles the happy face RJ paints.  Kirkland is the right age and very clever and Jane did set him up when he broke in and stole the work Jane did on his wall.   The only thing left that ties everything together would be that Lorilie isn't dead.  I don't believe RJ is someone that reads minds but I do believe that he traveled with the carnival during the time with the Janes because when he spoke to Lisbon he stated he travelled with his father first then his mother and he likes to think he was born in America, which would open the theory to his association with Patrick somehow and maybe that's when he saw the happy memory. Partridge is a "red herring" Kirkland has a friend in the FBI we found that out in Red Dawn, Partridge doesn't, at least as far as we know.  BTW, when Lorilie stated that he couldn't believe that Jane and RJ didn't become friends the minute they met, made me think, who could be friends with Partridge?  Not me!  One last thought is when Jane downsized his list he excluded people that he shook hands with but never saw again, why wasn't the sheriff excluded?  puzzling!  He is definitely scratched, the fbi agent he is just a schmuck, Bertram is I think considered a friend or ally to jane along with stiles,although I do believe stiles hypnotizes people for RJ like cristina frye and maybe vanpelt and possibly the blind chick. haffner is another follower not a leader so scratch him too.  Leaves only Kirkland and Stiles father and son!!! 

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SUDDENLY, I am thinking it's NOT Bret Stiles.  I just posted about the symbolism I found in 4 of the 7 suspects names:  BRET stiles, BRETT partridge, roBERT kirkland and Gale BERTram -- two BRETS and TWO BERTS -- as in "BRETON" -- a place in France known for King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.   Also, Stiles=High place, Partridge=Noble, Bertram=Knight and Kirkland=Church Land.  BUT I am changing my theory that Bret Stiles is head of the Red John operation or that ANY of these guys have anything to do with RJ.  After looking at the name meanings of RJ's accomplices, I think it may be something much more personal and insidious than the cult leader and his followers. It may involve Grace Van Pelt as "Van Pelt" means son of one of who cures animal hide, a departure from the noble meanings of the other CBI names.  


We know that Red John used alias: ROY (RED HAIRED) TAGLIAFERRO (TO CUT or IRON CUTTER). 
Some of the other character names:
Rosalind (WEAK or TENDER) Harker (TO LISTEN)

Lorelei (SEA SIREN: who leads men to their deaths) Martins (WAR or God of War Mars)

Orville (SPEAR) Tanner (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Dumar or Du (TO BECOME) mar (to DAMAGE or SPOIL/also SEA, or WAR) Tanner -- changes to "Hardy" 
Rebecca (TO TIE OR ENSNARE) Anderson (A MALE)

Craig (CLIFF OR ROCKS) O'Laughlin (LAKE)  

Brenda (SWORD) Shettrick (not sure, but "she trick" is obvious)

Ron (RULER) Deutch (means: OF GERMAN)

Anthony (PRICELESS) Gupta (SECRET)

Miriam (BITTER) Gottlieb (LOVE OF GOD)

Julia (YOUTH) Howard (GUARDIAN)

Jason (HEALER OF) Lennon (LOVERS)

Timothy and Sally Carter (CARRIER OF GOODS)


Gabe (GOD'S ABLE BODIED ONE) Mancini (LEFT HANDED/SINISTER MAN)

Todd (A FOX) Johnson (son of JOHN, which means GRACE or MERCY OF GOD)

James (TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ANOTHER: SUPPLANTER) Panzer (german for: MILITARY TANK)

Malcom & Sandra Boatwright (BOATMAKER)

Linus (FLAX) Wagner (WAGON MAKER)

Erica (FLOWER) Flynn (RED)

Morgan (BRIGHT or SEA) Tolliver (english version of TALIAFERRO: or IRON CUTTER)

Tommy (TWIN) Volker (german for ARMY) 
Walter (RULER OF AN ARMY) Mashburn (by the MARSHLANDS) 

These names all seem to speak for themselves, either literally or ironically




Then there's the CBI people:


Madeleine (HIGH or TOWER) Hightower (DWELLER NEAR THE TOWER)

J. J. (what does this stand for? ) LaRoche (ROCK or DWELLER ON THE ROCK)

Patrick (NOBLEMAN) Jane (GIFT FROM GOD)

Theresa (TO HARVEST or TO REAP) Libson (PLACE NAME in PORTUGAL; LIB means both FREEDOM and GOD'S PROMISE)

Virgil (unknown) Minelli (NEAR A RIVER, IN SPAIN & PORTUGAL)
Kimball (WARRIOR CHIEF) Cho (BEAUTIFUL)

Wayne (CRAFTSMAN or WAGON MAKER) Rigsby (by a RIDGE)

Grace Van (SON OF) Pelt (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Susan (LILY or FLOWER) Darcy (DARK)

Alexa (DEFENDER OF MAN) Shultz (german for: OVERSEER or SHERIFF/HEAD OF VILLAGE)

Luther (german for: FAMOUS/ARMY) Wainwright (WAGON MAKER and REPAIRER)

Kristina (FOLLOWER OF CHRIST) Frye (FREE MAN)

CBI RON (RULER) -- no last name?
Stephen (CROWN) Hannigan (SON OF A LITTLE SLOW MAN)

I wonder if there's a connection between Van Pelt and Tanner, whose names have the exact same meaning


The 7 SUSPECTS:

Gale (GUST or WIND) Bertram (KNIGHT)

Robert (FAMOUS) Kirkland (CHURCH LAND)

Bret (from BRETON) STILES (HIGH)

Brett (from BRETON) PARTRIDGE (NOBLE)

Sheriff Thomas (TWIN) Mcallister (DEFENDER OF MAN)

Reede (RED) Smith (METAL WORKER)

Ray (PROTECTOR or GRACE) Haffner (german for POTTER)


Um, these names are all quite noble but for Reede Smith, which doesn't sound good at all.



There are definitely some repeating patterns in all of these names.  Hmm....

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There's an interesting pattern in 4 of the 7 suspect's names, likely symbolic:  the name "BRET" can be found in the names of: Brett Partridge and Bret Stiles; AND [Gale] BERTRAM and ROBERT [Kirkland] also rearrange to "Bret" as well.  Bret is a place name, meaning from "Breton" or "Brittany" -- a part of France that used to be a part of England; Breton meaning "a lesser or little Britain," as opposed to "Great Britain."  Breton is where the King Arthur legends purportedly took place.  Interestingly, STILES means ASCENDING [as in fame or high place]; the name BERTRAM means KNIGHT; PARTRIDGE means NOBLE; and KIRKLAND means CHURCH LAND.  KNIGHT, NOBLE, CHURCH LAND -- the writers are telling us something here.  And I think that the use of the word "BRET" in each name denotes their involvement in the "round table" of Visualize --- with each man and their individual name representing their specific role.  STILES is at the TOP of the "Visualize Church"; and I think that Bertram, Kirkland and Partridge are a few of his most trusted "NOBLE" "KNIGHTS" who protect the "CHURCH LAND" and carry out his vision.  Visualize is a highly organized, corporate stylized CULT -- and if you look at the history of cults, which I did via Google, PARTICULARLY of California or "CULTIFORNIA," it's creepily commonplace.  SO, while I think BRET STILES, the leader of the cult Visualize, is the mastermind behind Red John  --- I do not think RED JOHN is one specific person.  I think Red John is a creation comprised of many:  Bertram, Kirkland and Partridge, each fulfilling a role in the "kingdom."  We already know Kirkland is a corrupt follower of RJ but he hasn't the leverage or charisma to be in charge of so many people at once.  Bertram has more power, being in a great position to let many "pawns" into the CBI though I hate to think Bertram is a bad guy -- but somebody is hiring all these people who end up on the inside, though Bertram just doesn't seem to have the drive to be "recognized" in the way that someone like RJ does.  Also, I think it's safe to say "ghoul" Partridge is the one who actually does the gruesome killings [enjoying investigating his own handiwork, as others have mentioned].  Initially, I felt Partridge was RJ, because I felt he was the killer but it just wasn't enough that ONLY Partridge was RJ as he is just not that charismatic enough to have power over others.  Partridge is more of a follower.  Kirkland is a follower and Bertram is a follower.  The only leader is Stiles:  Stiles controls all of these people  and has created RED JOHN to be thought of as one individual person, a "serial killer" on the loose as a RED HERRING, to throw PJ and the CBI team off the trail of Visualize.  PJ has been looking for his one true nemesis, but I think he's going to learn that this enemy is in the faces of many.

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