Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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So...Heller said that we would all be disappointed when they reveal RJ identity...and honestly thinking, everybody from the list wouldnt disappoint me of being RJ...any of them would be so obvious to me once RJ is revealed by something...example Stiles the smart and charming powerful man, or Kirkland who is acting strange all the time, Brett P. the psycho, or any of them would be a RJ to me by something..if you get me what i mean...and they were all RJ to me by something ..who could disappoint us much more than the people that are not on the list of being RJ....the list is there, its legit but what is PJ has an other list?

Please think about RJ as a person who would disappoint you the most...if its from the list or not...think widely!

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Theory #4618 • By Zuddy
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I Think Red John is *Not* a Person ... Red john is a clan or a group whatever .. ِThe suspects have the power to control everything and knowing everything about jane and can do any murder in anytime without any mistake .. they have a leader and everyone of them know his role ..

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He sang the "Tiger Tiger" poem under his breath in an older episode. He's has great people skills and this whole time has been playing the CBI. He also has high connections in the FBI.

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  I noticed thet there is powerfull name symbolism in this tv show and in my oppinion the most powerfull name in this show is REEDE SMITH and il explain why :
PART 1
Fitst of all the names in question:
1. REEDE SMITH
- REEDE is a variation of REED [ From an English surname which comes from multiple sources, including Old English read meaning "red" (originally a nickname given to a person with red hair or a ruddy complexion)]
-SMITH [From an English surname meaning "metal worker, blacksmith", derived from Old English smitan "to smite, to hit". ]
2. ROY TAGLIAFERRO
- ROY Anglicized form of RUADH [Gaelic byname meaning "red", often a nickname for one with red hair]
-TAGLIAFERRO: Virgil Minelli first realizes "Tagliaferro" means "cut iron" or "cutting iron" ("taglio" = "cutting" and "ferro" = "iron") in Italian.
3. RED JOHN
- RED: It was originally a nickname given to a person with red hair or a ruddy complexion.
-JOHN [ English form of Iohannes, the Latin form of the Greek name Ιωαννης (Ioannes), itself derived from the Hebrew name יוֹחָנָן (Yochanan) meaning "YAHWEH is gracious".
-YAHWEH [A name of the Hebrew God, represented in Hebrew by the tetragrammaton ("four letters") יהוה (Yod Heh Vav Heh), transliterated into Roman script Y H W H. Because it was considered blasphemous to utter the name of God it was only written and never spoken. This resulted in the original pronunciation being lost. The name may have originally been derived from the old Semitic root הוה (hawah) meaning "to be" or "to become".]
-So if JOHN means "YAHWEH is gracious" and YAHWEH means "to be " ,"to become" then JOHN means : "To be gracious";"To become gracious"
Now RED JOHN is the stage name the time when he shines , the time when he is gracious and the rest of the time he is a normal guy an ordinary joe .

PART 2

Besides of the name there is the issue of the William Blake poems wich kind of fits REEDE SMITH :
-To understand "The Tyger" fully, you need to know Blake's symbols. One of the central themes in his major works is that of the Creator as a blacksmith. This is both God the Creator (personified in Blake's myth as Los*) and Blake himself (again with Los as his alter-ego.) Blake identified God's creative process with the work of an artist. And it is art that brings creation to its fulfillment -- by showing the world as it is, by sharpening perception, by giving form to ideas.

*Los, Blake's spirit of poetry, vision, and liberation, is a blacksmith.

William Blake structured his poem with six Quatrains, or four line stanzas. In these stanzas, he uses a variety of rhyming couplets, repition, powerful imagery and alot of rhetorical questions to enhance the piece.He begins the first quatrain with “Tyger! Tyger!burning bright.” Right away he uses repition to catch the reader’s eye. The word “Tyger” is a symbol of all creation. In his poem, “The Lamb”, he uses the Lamb as a symbol of innocent mankind, where as the “Tyger” is a much more wild, mysterious and ferocious animal capable of great good and terrifying evil. Blake then supports that idea by describing the Tyger as “Burning Bright” The burning bright meaning being so ferocious, being so capable, so intelligent, and having the power to do anything. Going along with the idea of the Tyger being a wild, mysterious creature, he uses powerful imagery with the line “In the forests of the night.” This imagery creats an awesome scene of a dark, mysterious environment in which the Tyger is lurking. This suggests that the Tyger is like a creature of the night, very dark, very mysterious, and again, capable of doing unknown goods and evils. Blake ends his first quatrain with a rhetorical question. “what immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful symmetry?” The immortal hand or eye Blake uses is referring to a God. So he is saying, what God could create or “frame” somethin g that is both beautiful, symmetrical, and also so terrifying and fearful. The God who created such a creature is fearful because he made this beautiul creature of mankind to have free will. With free will means that they can choose to do right and wrong, and that in intself is terrifying.

So as you can see in the end there is a powerfull symbolism in the REEDE SMITH first of all from the names REEDE SMITH -> ROY TAGLIAFERRO -> RED JOHN
And then secondly William Blakes poem "The Tyger" has a powerfull symbolism in wich the God Creator is a Blacksmith from here the resamblance with the names SMITH and TAGLIAFERRO

PART 3

We've seen on other occasions along the show that RED JOHN used anagrams so its nothing new to him to do it again .
REEDE SMITH is the anagram for THE RED IS ME yet another reason to belive that he is RED JOHN

As PATRICK JANE said countless times along the show :

"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS COINCIDENCE"

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 * Kirkland is not for sure RJ...more like a RJ follower.....Lorelei told PJ that he and RJ shook hands but they never became friends....Kirkland and PJ didnt even had the time do became "friends" because he had shaken his hand one episode before Lorelei said that, and one more thing is lorelei couldnt know if Pj and Kirkland did even shake their hands

*Bret Stiles....too old, but knows who RJ is...

*Gale Bertram...could be, but something tells me he is going to get killed in season 6...so maybe he is not the one...

*Sheriff Thomas McAllister..Jane tricked him in Rock, Paper and Scissors game...somewhere i read he will be back in season 6 second episode Red-Winged Blackbird...he could be RJ for me.. 

*Brett P....when Pj and BP first met, PJ didnt gave him some big attention...he says he is a ghoul enyoying his work too much...and that he someword him...something like irritates him...also Brett told that he sees the smiley in blood for the first time for real...or something like that...he is too young to be RJ and i think he is maybe his follower.

*Ray Haffner....well maybe he is RJ, to shock us all at the end...and he and PJ were never friends, the age fits...

*Reede Smith... is a guest character appearing only in the Season Five premiere so far. Also it's been noticed that his name could be derived from 'Reed' which also means 'Red'. It has also been found that Reede Smith is an anagram for: "the red is me" and "theme is red", which would be fitting were Reede Smith to be revealed as the infamous Red John...also he and PJ were never friends...he most common translation of Tagliaferro is iron-cutter, word to word it would be cut-iron (Cutiron).But another translation of Tagliaferro is ... smith, so Roy Tagliaferro could be translated in english into Red Smith.

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I just want to say that human nature has been given this amazing ability to be in denial.

---- DEXTER SPOILERS ----
I want to go back to dexter's final, since the start of the season, pictures revealing debra
morgan's death has been published, but some decided that dexter only fake her death.
furthermore, everyone guessed that oliver saxon was tbs, but there were some who
claimed crazy theories, like vogel is the tbs, or even debra!
And ofcouse who the tbs was? oliver saxon, did debra morgan die? yes she did.
---- DEXTER SPOILERS ----

People keep suspect people that aren't even on the 7-list (or even these that say pj is rj),
which is absurd.
And the people that think rj can be other than brett partridge, which can't even happen!

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFcQv8bVmA this is the sound of brett partridge, no
one else can that like that, this is and can only be brett partridge as red john @ 00:23
2) Rosalind Harker's theory is honest and trustable, bruno heller uses her knowledge since
season 1, and patrick jane always knew she was honest.
the only people that can even be red john, based on his visual profile are brett stiles (which
isnt rj because of his old age), bob kirkland (that has been proven many times that he cant
be rj, and the only one left that match the voice of rj, the profile of rj, and the main suspect
for rj is and always will be: brett partridge.

you can actually hear his freaking voice, keep being in denial.
RED JOHN = BRETT PARTRIDGE, dont let bruno heller fool you.
crazy conspiracy rarely happen, there's more than enough information to determine
rj's identity.

same as dexter, i hope that site owner won't take this site down on 22/11/13 so we, the
people who knows it's brett partridge, can say "we told you so :)".
And we will.. (rj will be revealed at episode 8 "Red John").

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Theory #4608, Part II

Red John is puppeteer. He just pulls all those strings and makes things happen. 
He is pure evil, but not an executor! Executors are naive, stupid and small human beings. They made all these crimes, and they are all stimulated by one man, a pure evil.
He is devil in human body, an evil mentalist.

In season 2, episode 20 (Red All Over), Elizabeth Stanfeld, Visualization member, planted bomb in some house and Lisbon deactivated that bomb in last seconds. In interrogation room, Cho and Jane questioned her, and in one moment she told them: „Im looking down on you from a great height, You are like ants. Its sad how far I am beyond from you people, spiritually and mentally, Just because you stopped my work doesnt mean others wont follow my path.“ 
Is sounds like Bret Stiles is talking from her. After all, she is his obedient follower, brain-washed and easy to manipulate. Red John used her to send message to Patrick that he is always one step ahead.

In season 3, episode 3 (The Blood on His Hands), Bret told Jane that many policemen are Visualize members. Brets chief of security Warner Vander Hoek told Lisbon that he read her dossier. Also he told that he spent eleven years working in Seattle Homicide and seven years in Intelligence Division. So, we can see that Bret Stiles is powerful and surrounded with strong, obedient people. His members are practically connected to Visualization for life. Lucy Joel is member who left Visualization, and after that she is scared for her life. She told Van Pelt and Rigsby that she have been followed and threatened. Also, she told that Visualize dont like when people leave the organization. Visualize uses threats and blackmails to keep their members in. When Van Pelt and Rigsby left the Lucy Joels house, somebody was followed them. It was FBI agant Craig O'Laughlin, who said later in CBI office that FBI were looking at Brat Stiles and Visualize for couple of years ago. He criticizes CBI for weak investigation of Brat Stiles and he told that FBI thinks that Stiles has his own people in police. But, we know that agent O'Laughlin was accomplice of Red John. Later, he was CBI insider for Red John and he had relationship with Grace Van Pelt, He also knew his father before. To much coincidents, isnt?
In this episode, Julius Coles, a Visualization attorney killed Celia Jovanovich, member of Visualization, too. At the end of the episode, Julius Coles was accused for murder, and immediately after he was shot and murdered by his victims husband, who is also a member of Visualization. Red Johns plan? Surely it is. In the end, Red John always eliminate his accomplices and disciples.
In the background of this episode, there is story about Kristina Frye. She was kidnapped and Brat Stiles told Jane that he knew what Red John is planning. He said that he knows much more than Jane and Red John could ever imagine. It is creative move by Brat Stiles, some kind of distraction. He praises himself in front of Jane. He domonstrates his power to him, manipulating and convincing him that he is his friend and that Red John is someone else. Brat told Jane that Red John is going to take everything and everyone that he cares about, and that it is some form of love.
I would say, wicked love.

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