Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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The reason I follow the Mentalist (aside from how legendary Patrick Jane is), is because from the very first episode, Bruno Heller has said he has always known how the final episode of the show would transpire. He said at the very beginning that Jane vs Red John is the overarching storyline and this would not come to a close until the very final chapter of the show. Therefore I am very confident that he has planned pretty much every Red John related episode with knowledge of who Red John is from the outset, just as we know who Jane is. And I firmly believe Simon Baker knows who Red John is, and has known this from when he was approached with the script and signed on to play Patrick Jane. For me, Red John's significance would dwindle considerably if it turned out to be some random guy/girl we meet later in seasons 3 to 5 (e.g. Reede Smith/Haffner/McAllister etc). And I am convinced directly as a result of that, that the show's significance would dwindle too. Therefore, I am convinced that Red John is someone we have met in the very first episode of the show that both casual and religious followers of the show would remember. However for a show of this type to maintain it's casual followers, said person would need to be a character who is present as little as possible, but just enough for the audience to go recall immediately when Red John is finally revealed to us. The only recurring characters from the first episode, present until even now (in what I am convinced is likely to be the final season of the Mentalist if ratings dip) are: Jane, Lisbon, Cho, Rigsby, Van Pelt, Minelli (though we have not seen him for some time now) and Brett Partridge. 

Of these, the character that fits this criterion is Brett Partridge (aside from all the other parameters pointing directly at him - e.g. being the correct age, height, build, the same voice, links within the CBI, morbid fascination with murders and crimes, etc)

I really badly have always wanted the identity of Red John to be Jane, Lisbon, Van Pelt or Cho/Rigsby and for this to be revealed in the very final episode of the entire show after we think the threat of Red John has finally been put to the grave a few episodes earlier. If this were my show, the final scene of the show's finale for me would be when all is supposedly well with "Red John" dead and everyone living happily ever after, us finding out that Jane really was Red John all along and the madness will continue because Jane has (as said in the opening credits of every show in Season 1) been "A Master Manipulator". However, that is just my dark and morbid way of thinking about this - as the boldest TV show in the last decade with the ultimate final twist, going out in a blaze of glory. Unfortunately, Bruno Heller has said a few times now that it is not Jane - therefore this shall reside in my imagination... for now.

However, it is unlikely any TV show will be as bold as that, even one of the calibre of The Mentalist. Additionally, Bruno Heller has said that there will be a little disappointment after we find out who Red John is. After watching S5 finale and S6 premiere closely and repeatedly I am now forced to entertain the most probable alternative - 


It is now more clearly obvious than ever that Red John is Brett Partridge...


He "faked" his death very cleverly in front of us and Lisbon in purposefully poor lighting and as she was distracted by that mysterious sink, she was simply swiped from behind by Partridge. It all makes sense. Even if we get to see Partridge's dead body next week, it will only be a very short glimpse. Had Partridge been "killed" off in any other episode than the premiere this season, my theory would have been very poor and I would not be posting this now. The very fact that he has been "killed" off in the season premiere is incredibly telling. Most of us will now forget him completely whilst other suspects/innocents are being murdered and Jane hunts for Lisbon - until the episode we have all been waiting for arrives and Red John is revealed as Partridge, who was alive all along - this is classic storytelling...

The obvious reasons:
1) He was located at the scene of the "anonymous" tip-off on both GPS and in person
2) His presence was extremely notable in both S5 finale and now the premiere
3) This is the perfect Bruno Heller foil - the real Red John would take himself off the list as soon as possible - faking death in the opening episode is the perfect way

Not so obvious but perhaps more pertinent:
1) Remember the show's premiere episode way back in 2008. Where we walk in to the fake Red John murder scene and are introduced to Brett Partridge whom Jane describes as a Ghoul, mentions the classic line "He irks me. He is irksome" and says if he doesn't "get off on fan gory, then I (Jane) am Britney Spears". Remember that demonstration by Partridge of how Red John draws the bloody smiley on the wall? He used his right hand. Now watch the final scene where Lisbon's face is being painted. We are to assume this is Red John wearing a black glove on his right hand, standing to the right of Lisbon's (clearly unconscious only, not dead or bleeding, body) and painting her face with his right hand. In exactly the same way Partridge did it. Please go back and watch how Partridge details the way Red John paints the face. Watch them side by side. The similarity is impossible to ignore. 



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Theory #4767 • By Dan42o
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I suspect that Bret  Partridge is not dead, and even may be Red John or an associate.  Just because he was covered with blood and collapsed in front of Lisbon, doesn't necessarily mean that he is dead.  I'm waiting to see next weeks episode to see if his body is found.  The voice that spoke on Teresa's phone sounded exactly like Partridge.  He was the most popular suspect before Episode 6.1, and it would be good writing to have him supposedly killed off, while hiding in reality.  He also knew the phrase 'Tyger Tyger' which is Red John's favorite.

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Most people believe that Kirkland being red John is to obvious, but I'm a firm believer of Occam's razor. Every time we see Kirkland it's related to RJ. The first time we see him is in the flashback which shows he has been watching over pj during his whole CBI career, when he meets and SHAKES pjs hand the red John theme plays in the background, plus he is shown killing of an RJ accomplice and he also got himself all of James RJ research which whould explain how RJ knew the seven names. He is creepy and intelligent which are defiantly two personality traits RJ whould have. I'm 99% sure this guy is RJ but heller is that brilliant you just never know.

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Theory #4772 • By Repletiiinnnggg
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Gale Bertram " I need to be on the boat when you catch that fish"    Is that the hint Heller was talking about i've watch S6E1 four time already that's all i can think is a hint , What do you people think?

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  " You Think You're Very Clever...I'll Show you Clever "

1.-My Name Is bret Partridge,I'm Red John.When I Made The List Of The 7    Suspects I Put 6 Others Before My Name,I'm Not Stupid Enough    To Put My Name First...    Clever ?

2.- " Hello Mr Yardley,Who Did This To You Mmm ? ( I'm Expecting  A Reaccion From You Mr Jane )     " You've Been Really Sullen With Me,And Now you're Staring At Me     Stragely And I Don't Know Why "  ( What Is The Matter You Don't    Want To Play Mind Games Anymore Or Should I Show My True Self    As Red John And Play Some More. )3.- Teresa-What's Your Take On Partridge?      Jane-If He Is Red John He Is A Very Good Actor.    Teresa-He Had To Be,Wouldn't He ?
4.- I bret Partridge Staged My Own Death In Order To Capture     Teresa Lisbon And Take Myself Out Of The Suspects List.    Because I'm A Showman,And Artist And I Have A Strong Sense Of     Theater.I As Red John Will Make It Look Like My Body As     Bret Patridge Was Taken Away By Me Red John By The Time    Teresa Lisbon Wakes Up...And You'll Have No Choice    But To Belive Teresa Lisbon tHAT i Bret Partridge am Dead.5.- Killing More Often And Get Away With it...That's Not Clever....    Faking My Own Death....NOW THAT'S CLEVER.6.-One More Thing,There's Something I Left By The Sink,   Something I Use When We Have Our Satanic Rituals....   Tyger....Tyger Burning Bright...Something We Say   On Our Rituals...But You Won't Know That...'till   Next Time....We're Face To Face....

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First of all, I'm uploading an important image below in the comments, showing a comparison between the back shots of Rebecca's killer and Haffner. And also proposing a theory as to how RJ got the info on Aileen and her connection with Jane's memories and also the whole Loreli, RJ's List ordeal.

For most of the time Bertram has been at the top my list and so has Haffner. Since they both can be Red John I'm going to explain why the either can be RJ.

Haffner

1. Fit's Rosalind's description quite well except for the voice (although RJ has to be faking that pitchy voice, he wouldn't make such a silly mistake).

2. The visualize connection, and they "screwed-up kid" remark and the whole thing in The Red Barn episode where he tries to manipulate Lisbon.

3. He is an ex FBI Agent (that explains RJ's connections in the FBI) and ex CBI agent who specializes in Creative surveillance techniques. Which means he has the skills and resources and the intelligence to hack the CBI Network (while attacking Bosco's team or when Jared Renfrew escaped or when He followed Darcy and in this episode as well.

4. The handshake and more importantly his demeanor during his first appearance. He seemed a little friendly towards Jane, no? As if he really admires him on some level and was glad to be finally able to get a chance to spend time with Jane. And the through out the episode where he show's his manipulative and inquisitive side.

5. Consider looking up the personality traits of a psychopath and compare these guys with that. Both Haffner and Bertram do seem to have some of the traits. (Of course Jane has been diagnosed in the show as a clinical psychopath, but I think we can exclude Jane and just spare him of that accusation :) )

Bertram

1. Did shake hands with Jane, and called him "Boy wonder" as he was called in his early days.

2. His involvement in the RJ related cases such as the Todd johnson murder, Hightower frame-up and Loreli Martins.

3. Just like Haffner, Bertram too behaved in a friendly way with Jane initially and did say that he admired Jane's skills.

4. He's the opposite of Rosalind's description. Now think about this - RJ has killed everyone who can identify him except Rosalind (and the little girl Haley too). So why not Rosalind? She already gave his description way back in season 1? He must keep her alive because she hasn't broken his trust by giving the CBI the wrong description! She said Roy is just under 6 ft tall, Bertram is the opp - as tall as 6.2 or 6.3. Has short straight hair and Bertram - BALD :P. Not muscular but still strong (Well he is that) and the voice - which as I explained above, is fake.

5. I read a theory on this site somewhere that the "He is MAR..." message could actually be Renfrew writing "BERTRAM" in REVERSE, which would have been MARTREB. I really liked this and this supports my theory well. Cudos to whoever wrote this theory! :) 

6, In the latest episode, Bertram says he know's about Jane getting closer. But At that time, only Teresa, Patrick and RJ knew that Patrick got closer. Cho and the guys didn't even know! And the way he talks to them and the line where he says i am many things to many people, doesn't that remind you of what Timothy carter said after BERTRAM left him and Jane alone at the mall?!

Now finally, a theory about how RJ could have come up with the list just like Jane's and also know about Aileen

Either Bertram or Haffner, could have kidnapped or somehow in the past have been in contact with and gotten the info about Aileen from people who could know about Jane's childhood. And there are 3 people who could possibly know that - Alex Jane, Sean Barlow and Dr.Sophie Miller (if I got her name correct).

Now we've all seen the way Bertram approved Kirkland access to the RJ investigations. This almost seems like him cleaning up his mess and not getting his hands dirty. Which also means the the mysterious Mr.Kirkland is actually an associate of RJ. That explains why he asked Lennon if he knew him and not RJ and still killed him and said that thing about having a friend who would do this for him. IT just means he's doing the dirty, risky work for RJ.

And about the list, I'm sure that Patrick has a different list and RJ has a different one. And that's because Jane suspected a break-in and that's what happened. And as we know who broke in we can say that the real RJ, either Bertram or Haffner has been given the wrong info by their associate Kirkland.

I hope my theories have interested you and if you have and complaints/suggestions/criticisms/corrections, please let me know! :)

And don't forget to check out the picture I'm uploading below in the comments!!

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Am I the only one recognizing the voice of Brett Partridge?The one who calls Patrick in the end,  has the voice of Brett Partridge!!  go check it out, and then continue with your theories.

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