Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I agree with the posters who say Bret Stiles has some connection to Red John (Brett Partridge). I'm not necessarily sure if he they're father and son, but it is possible. Maybe Bret with one T was Red John back in the day and taught Partridge the tricks of the trade to carry on his legacy.

I was thinking about the poem Tyger Tyger the other day, and the thing that kept popping up in my mind was the question in the poem: Who "dared" create the Tyger? It is an origin story. Who was responsible for making Red John what he is? His father? Maybe. That is the central question of the poem with regards to the Tyger.

Fearful symmetry? How about Brett and Bret. Father and son? Mentor and apprentice?

Another idle thought which probably isn't relevant. Tiger spelled with a Y instead of an I(archaic English), Styles spelt with a I instead of a Y? Symmetry? 

Brett Partridge alone, doesn't seem to make full sense as Red John. He lacks the charisma, the high level connections. Brett Partridge and Bret Stiles working together would make for quite a team.  

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As of right now I don't lean toward any of the 7 being redjohn. All i know that each of them has at least one reason as to why they're on the list and jane would have his reasons to put them on the list so i trust jane's reasoning. And I do believe that bruno heller is smarter than all of us here, he's had 6 seasons to plan everything. We could be guessing the right things or just wasting our time here. So I'd prefer to get whatever clues I can get but allow myself to go along with the flow and have fun with it.

What I do want to say is that do you guys realise how many times its been repeated that redjohn is always 'One step ahead of jane'. But what if... what if jane is actually one step ahead. What if he knows that Bob Kirkland has a relation to redjohn thus explaining why he 'allowed' bob to break an entry to the rooftop place and then when bob passed the information to redjohn, redjohn could follow jane's thoughts and come up with the list of 7 suspects before jane did. Or at least before jane showed lisbon the list. But in truth, jane actually has a strong hunch who redjohn is out of the 7. And he told lisbon because he knows lisbon would want to tell the rest of the team. He wanted lisbon to act the way she did and bug the phones for whatever reason that only jane knows. However he probably thought he could catch up with lisbon before redjohn does anything to her. Clearly he got that part wrong. 

Maybe jane is doing one of his things where he pretends he doesn't know anything, but in truth he's playing the role of the mastermind and trapping redjohn.

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Who will confirm the death of Brett "Who did this to you" Partridge? Maybe his assistant VAL VENIS, who always wanted to work a serial-killer? That would be very funny. Because than we will know that BP is still alive and RED JOHN. :O))))

IF BP is really dead my money is on Sheriff Thomas McAllister. He is played by Xander Berkeley - why would such a great actor play such a mini-role? Because he is RED JOHN! Think about his first sentence when he met PJ : "People look different when they are dead, aren't they?"

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He's dead.

http://cliqueclack.com/p/mentalist-brett-partridge-really-dead/


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Sorry......this is continued from my last post, I must have made a mistake submitting it.

...and they are all a bit old and not very nice looking.

Also I think that Bret Stiles is Partridge's dad. Why use the name Bret twice??? I mean, the writers could have thought up another name for the characters of Stiles and Partridge. Why use Bret twice??

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I still think it's Partridge!

Earlier in the episode, Jane says, "If he is Red John, he is a very good actor". And Lisbon says, "Well you would have to be". With this is mind, I think that Partridge is just acting dead in the creepy house. With Lisbon unconscious, there is nothing to stop him from waking up and clearing off. Of course he has to have an accomplice but Red John has had accomplices in the past while killing. 

If it does turn out in next week's episode that Partridge IS dead and the coroner takes away his body, well then maybe the coroner is one of Red John's accomplices too and declares him dead while he is just sleeping or unconscious due to some clever drug he has taken.  I bet the body gets put in the morgue and then he gets woken up by a disciple at the morgue, and then he goes on killing, all the while everyone thinking that he is dead.

I like Partridge for it! All the others don't seem to fit in my opinion. Loreli Martins was a lover of Red John's. I can't imagine her going out with any of the other suspects as she is pretty and they are all a bi

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 ppl who say brett faking his death

1-think about the next episode
it will be so obvious if we ddnt find his dead body in the next episode
and red john is revealed after 2 episodes only :)
what will they say about it? red john took his dead body ? he dont do this at all !

2-why would red john do all this to kill a woman .. rly ! fake his death to distract her ? and come from behind? just kill her like always man :S he is already professional serial killer

3- lock the closet from outside on him self?

4- open the door while he is on the ground ??

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ok now
-remove brett cuz dead
-remove bob cuz producer said @ 2011 season 3 begin we already saw red john .. and he appeared in season 4 or 5 i dont remember
-reede smith and thomas will be disappointing for real if red john is someone of them

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now we have gale bertram - bret stiles - ray haffner

i believe he is ray haffner cuz
1- the pic of red john face looks alot like him ( the pic taken from an episode for him killing some one .. idont remember the episode sorry :( )
2- in the 1st appearance of red john in season 2 final he ddnt look like an old man in the way he walk or lifting jane from the ground .. old like gale and brett .. but he fit to ray haffner
3-this also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdRkohY8UM may explain why choose to kill lisbon .. as he think its the closest person to jane and will hurt him by killing her..
also it shows that he dislike jane
4- and more u can find about him .. as he fit the description of red john .. and they say red john connected to the police as he was a police officer or somthing like that i dont remember rly :d .. and so on :)

thx for reading .. and sorry for bad english :D

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