Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Instead of picking a suspect that you think could potentaly be Red John what we need to do is elimanate the ones that cant be him  :)


1) Brett Stiles - Cant be - in 1988 Red John was a kid and was any where up to 30 in 1988 Brett Stiles (well his actor) would have been 43.
2) Brett Partridge - i cant dismiss him from being RJ but we will know by next episode if we see his body or not. NOTE his hight is also a good match for Roslands description
3) Robert (Bob) Kirkland - Yes we all know he killed a RJ acomplice he stole the fake list from Jane but my thoughts are that he is not RJ or an acomplice and is rather trying to find him himself as he is related to one of Red Johns victoms just like Jane plus he is a bit to short to be RJ
4) Sherrif Thomas Mcallister - Cant be - As in 1988 just like Stiles he was to old to be RJ he was 33 and woudint have been considered a kid.
5) Reede Smith - I have no clues pointing him to be RJ But in saying that I have no clues that tell me he isnt RJ aswell. NOTE he is 6'2 so does not fit Red Johns hight
6) Gale Bertram - For one Bertram is 6'3 so cant be Red John cause he is to tall But i defintly beleive he is an RJ acomplice
7) Ray Halfner - This would be my best guess to be RJ he worked at vissulise he is 6' tall he would have been 21 years old in 1988 and there could possibly be a reason why Red John didnt kill Lisbon because if Red John is Ray Halfner he wouldnt want to kill Lisbon as he likes Lisbon and just wanted to scare Jane to show him that he is still in controll

So from this we can elimanate Kirkland Stiles  Mcallister and possibly Bertram and Smith going by hight but since that isnt hard proof i will keep them as possible suspects leaving us with Partridge Halfner Smith and Bertram  and we will know by the next episode if Partidge is alive or dead witch will eather keep Partidge as a suspect if his body has disapeared  or dismiss him as suspect if his body is found dead (witch I beleive he is ) But if his body has some how gone from the scene then Partridge is your man because RJ never takes the bodys of his victoms away with him he always leaves them for people to see. So this would leave Bertram Smith Halfner and possibly Partridge  im telling you one of these 3 men is gonna be RJ :)
 
(My guess is Halfner I will be very surprised if it is not him)
                                  or Partridge :)

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Some points that R "clear" to me:

Partridge IS dead...
Bruno Heller might be lying to us (he has done it before...) but it's hard to say where that lie could be...
Rosalind H description of RJ is LAUGHABLE... She's blind and she's lied before too...
The list of 7 is a trick from Patrick...
Sheriff McAllister did not appear in pilot episode BUT in 2nd and that "little detail" is waaaaaaaaaaaaay important in my humble opinion...
He fits the man who poisoned Rebecca's description IMO and, "as a Sheriff" seems very capable of several facts that could lead us to think he might be the one...
All persons included in the list of 7 are close to RJ...

Sheriff McAllister will be Red John...

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For me, there are only 2 possibilities:

1- Partridge isn't dead, he is Red John and it was just a trick to caught Teresa easily.
2- Partridge is dead and my number two, Gale Bertram is Red John. If i remember correct, Teresa called him in one Episode as " a clown". This could be the explanation why the Killer painted a Clown-Smiley on her face.

Furthermore:  in my opinion, the List of final 7 suspects is correct. It has to be...

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   Much like others on this site, I tend to believe that Brett Partridge is not dead. But in fact he might actually be. We;re going to know for sure the next episode. The proofs will be Brett's dead body and another dead suspect or at least one of them.
   My attention is now focused on Bob Kirkland. There are a lot of reasons. Firstly he is an odd guy. Secondly he is interested in Jane's suspects map, so much interested that he gets a copy for him, not without giving Jane a hunch when the latter realises his space was invaded when the match piece at its place. Thirdly, at the hospital he asks Jason Lennon: "Do you recognize me? Have you seen me before?". This means either that if he is Red John, he doesn't show his face to all of his apprentices or that he's had surgery. The not matching fact about Kirkland is that he has not shaken the hands with Jane, in the past as Lorelei said.
    My other suspect is Ray Haffner, given that he is a member of Visualise and that as he refuses to answer Lisbon, he might have been at the farm when the crimes were committed. If he is the same age as the actor portraying him(Reed Diamond) is, he might've been taken as some kid since he was about 21 at the time. The not matching fact is that he is exactly 6' tall, and according to Rosalind Harker's description RJ is "just under 6' tall". But considering that Harker is blind we may as well pretend she was not really right about RJ's height.
    Finally I can tell that Lisbon is still alive because the smiley face on her face marks Partridge's death, not hers. She was just unconscious as RJ might've used drugs to get her in this state.
    Another thing I'm thinking of is that the suspects may have some connections with RJ, or even between each other.

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Insider's guess, its no one from the list of 7......

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For me it's a tie between two people. There are only two people on the list that somehow fit Rosalind's description of RJ, that would be Ray Haffner and Brett Partridge. Unlike most people on this site, I believe Partridge is in fact dead. However, I believe all 7 have a connection to RJ in some way. My other pick would be Gale Bertram, I know in the season premiere his lines were obvious but hear me out, nobody else in the entire show refers to Jane as "Boy Wonder" which was his circus name. I realize he does not at all fit the description but I do believe he has a deeper connection to RJ than we suspect. Haffner at this point looks like the best suspect simply because of his high tech background and his description, but like many suspects that we have met in the show, he seems a bit "too good to be true" at this point. And allow me to address an ongoing theory on the site, if Partridge did fake his own death somehow, and there was no body to show for whenever they find Lisbon, don't you think Jane would automatically believe that Partridge is the #1 guy, to me that would be exactly what the real red john wants, so whenever they do not find a body, Jane is going to suspect that Partridge is not dead.

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First of all, this is not really a theory, just want to point something out.

1- the show is becoming fucking annoying, and stupid

2- the most obvious suspect to be red john is dead, or we suppose he is.


Now, let me tell you something. Patrick is not stupid, and in my opinion this is a fake list that he wanted red john to have to mislead him.

Because think about this, if Patrick really suspects of these 7 guys, he just had to do one thing: Set a meeting with all of them, in a place like CBI. He could just send a message to all the 7 suspects to be in CBI, and then guess what? He only needs to call Rosalind too. Rosalind will touch every suspects face and listen to them talking, and easily she will tell Jane who the hell is Red John. That would be so fuckin easy.

I dont even understand why are they spending so much time making new episodes when they can go straight to the point.
Anyway, this show is becoming stupid, we have also seen episodes where the killer touches the weapon of crime with his own hands (without using gloves) and leaves the weapon right after the killed person. They spend a whole episode try to find the guy, when all they should do would be pick the weapon and take fingertips LOL.

Anyway, my point is, the list must be fake, and in my opinion Brett Partridge is not really dead. Because I think he is RJ.

And CBI Ron must be one of RJ's puppets, I'm 100% sure of that.

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