Hi all,

I am almost certain that Red John is bob kirkland, clues many clues were breifly inserted at the end scenes of some episodes in season 5.

1st clue was the episode that showed to us when the flash back of how Patrick joined the CBI and the end scene where the director of the FBI called the x boss of the CBI to tell him that Patrick was in the loony bin for six months, and when she ended the call in. The limo bob was there.

2nd clue was when bob was first introduced in the show and he shoke hands with patrick in the cooridoor and said Patrick's name while patrick has no idea who he was.

3rd clue was that Bob searched patricks office to see what he knows and we then find out what red John knows of patricks list.

And also we know Bob is not young as he was around in the 1980's killing already at the barn farm episode.

But I suppect that maybe red john is a cult not a person if you know what I mean.

Any thoughts?

Great theory, I agree with you. It's him. 

Red john is Sheriff Thomas McAllister im pretty sure of it he's the only one that hasn't appeared in a rj episode in s1e2 red hair in silver tape there was a women dead and he said people sure look different when there dead don't they ? (referring to jane) but not directly watch his facial expression he appeared out of nowhere when van pelt was walking while the wire camera was on her that shows he can move without being noticed... i think i found the big clue bruno heller was talking about in s6e1 the desert rose) there where 7 pigeons when lisbon walked into the room 1 flew out so there's 6 remaining but look at the pigeons there's 3 together and the other 3 are separate McAllister' Bertram & Smith are all together in the next episode Black Winged RedBird coincidence? i dont think so