Who is Red John?

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Robert Kirkland (the homeland security agent)

1)Was the man in the limo at the end of Red Dawn that the woman was taking orders from

2)Knew Jane's name and shook his hand upon meeting

3)Shortly after we find out that Jane has met RJ and they have shook hands.

4)He has that talk with Lisbon about backing off

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It is Moriarty!!!

I found this picture online of the guy.

http://shaddicted.tumblr.com/post/31807377749/bylarge-shaddicted-sherlock-the-mentalist

His name is Agent Moriarty. It's like a Sherlock Holmes crossover. Remember in one of the season finales the guy who said "Red John is a friend of a friend of mine." The one Jane had to break out of jail that got away in the end and fled to Mexico only to wind up dead with a hooker in the bathtub. He wrote on the wall "He is MOR–" MOR are the first three letters for Moriarty.

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Ok, Lorili said Jane should have become life long friends w/Red JOHN when they first shook hands. Jane shook hands with the guy who was part of Homeland security on the episode where the news reporter was killed by the T.V. anchor and the wealthy guy who got away with it. He told Lisben TO BACK OFF. THEN ASKED HER TO GO OUT FOR COFFEE.

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Alright for one, I think of Roy Tagl. as a sep. thing from Red John. Roy is more or less like one of the main guys in the group and all but there are many people in it such as virgil minelli, kristina frye, lorelei martins, the many people we saw were underlings including the guy at the farmhouse drinking the tea. Why do I say this? simple, unless someone has been pulling off some impressive acting i have yet to see a better mentalist than jane is, i know some people say his dad but come on he'd be like 70 or so which makes it a bit hard to believe.

The story of how Roy meets Roaslind seems odd in itself. red john just happens to break down or something and happens upon her house? people say she seems hynotized when jane and them show up and she is playing the piano but she answers their question about roy leaving. why was the morgue attendant actually killed? i highly doubt red john cares much if people think he is dead or not so he wouldn't worry about it unless something that man said or did insulted him. if red johns car breaks down with his resources and all hell i would think he would have a driver and more at this point, which comes to also another odd point.

why was luther wainright in the car at all i mean they could of just grabbed about anyone and tossed them into that situation and was he really dead even? it seems odd that darcy had a mental breakdown i also find it odd how they leave passages unchecked. the twin sister who lived why was she not spoken to? could she have seen red john or roy or someone else we'll never know...what did that little girl tell jane in the time before the cops got there, when they do get there he is teaching her the quarter trick which more often than not is how he hypno's people which means he had all the time in the world before he called the cops to get the info. it is unlike jane to just not hypno her to find out hidden info she may have issues thinking of normally.

also we keep seeing odd cars like the 70's car at the funeral and the police cruiser chasing after the fbi. also with all red johns kills in other states itd be kinda odd for him to be a cbi member now fbi or homeland maybe but bob kirkland is way too simple of a person to think of. we cannot associate rj's voice with him himself as that is prolly another way they have been leading things on with people also the fact roy got sloppy with rosalind just seems odd the po box and all that naw roy or red john knew jane would find this info or else they would never have hired a sky writer which caused the info to come out. rosalind says she hasnt seen him in a long time but we see him using one of her tea cups so if she is lying about that what else can we believe of what she says even if what she is saying she even knows is true or not.

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Theory #551 • By What-Immortal
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Why does Red John not want to kill Jane?

This man is a serial killer who has killed a huge number of people for less than what Jane has done to provoke him.

Its just out of hand now. The story is dragging, the Red John character is getting lost. I no longer watch this show and think "Omg when will he kill again, this man is a monster". I'm watching and thinking "Come the F on now Jane! Your smart enough to find this man. Its not scary anymore, just stop him".

Its just stupid, EVERYONE is a POSSIBLE suspect! Heck, let me pick Sam Bosco as my suspect for the sake of it, even though he's dead. If we don't know who RJ is, we may as well eliminate who its certainly not.

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I belive Red John might be Patrick Jane's father.

There was a murderer who Jane provoked to offend Red John and RJ killed him afterwards. The reason was the exact reason that provoked Red John to kill Jane's family. Only this time, RJ killed the offender, not his family. So why would Patrick Jane be spared? Because a father cannot kill his son.

Also, one might agree that for a serial psychopathic murderer there would be some fun in playing games with a smart cop, but Patrick Jane is, indeed, a pain in the ass for anyone trying to commit crimes. So why keep sparing him? Why, instead of getting rid of him, RJ keeps trying to get him on his side?

Thirdly, Patrick has mentioned that Red John is someone better than him at cold reading and stuff alike. We've all seen, in Jane's flashbacks, that his father taught him how to do everything he knows. So one better than PJ is only his father, having the advantage of knowing his son's patterns and everything.


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This isn't really a theory but just what I thought was an interesting remark by Lorelei in the episode "Red Sails in the Sunset" where Jane breaks her out of prison.

Just after Jane shows her the crime scene photo of her sisters murder, she says something along the lines of "you will never convince me Red John murdered her."  At first I was thinking it was something somebody who's brainwashed would say, but I don't think that's actually the case.  She says it with far too much conviction, so much so that it's like she actually KNOWS that Red John could not have raped and killed Miranda.  If you take that at face value, it leads to some interesting points.  Was she:

1.  With Red John at the time the murder took place and both of them nowhere near the crime scene.  Basically she's his alibi.

2.  She was AT the crime scene and saw who committed the murder (herself even).

3.  She knows that Red John is physically incapable of raping a woman.  Would that indicate that Red John is not actually a man?

There's probably a dozen more questions we could raise from that statement!  My theory: it's either Jane (that conversation in the car at the end of season 4 really sounds like Jane changing his voice) or there is no actual Red John, it's more a group of murderers.

Another thing.  I can't remember if Lorelei ever refers to Red John as a he (I'm probably wrong).  The "shook hands" remark seems to deliberately not mention gender.

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