Well guys figure out who Nick, the actor playing young red john, looks like?
for me it is quite clear who he is...if he is red john indeed!
look for pics of Nick Nordella...blue eyes, enigmatic smile, blonde hair...hum...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2881739776/nm0634984?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_pbl_1
I never understood and still do not understand how anyone, especially Patrick Jane, could suspect McAllister and Smith as being Red John. There is nothing of Red John's characteristics to be found in any of them. This two makes one believe that the list of 7 suspects may not be the real thing after all. As for the other suspects: Haffner's voice is too dark to resemble Red John's voice, Stiles is too old, Bertram is too old and too bald and Partridge appears to be too dead ... So that leaves only one suspect left (assuming that the list is not fake).
Kirkland is not intrested to know who Red John is (the murder of Red John's henchman in the hospital without asking about Red John proves that), he's just intrested in knowing exactly how much Patrick Jane knows.
Beside Patrick Jane, there's only two other characters who have great influence on other people: Stiles and Kirkland.
First sorry for my english.
My theory is the 7 suspect are helping Red John but RJ is not on the list. I thing Red John is Ron. The ring for exemple but we know already this.
But look how Rob is filming in the show. He is always on the corners or in the sides and he is always serious.
Majio spoilers read ahead at your own risk
For thouse who haven't already seen it yet i have the season 6 episode 4 promo linked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wp9F6xNX44 Jane very clearly states that somebody is killing people on his fake list! yes i know im as shocked as all of you all this time and effort we have spent on analyzing each suspect has led to nothing. But don't despair all the evidence we have collected has not gone to waste. The fact that the list is fake makes complete sense we know Jane had knowledge of people breaking into his home and he did plant the toothpick in the door so it would make sense for him to not have his real list out in the open for the taking. We also hear from high tower that Jane has been under surveillance for 9 YEARS that's right a whole nine years from the day he had joined the cbi he was under surveillance from homeland. Someone had ordered jane to be under surveillance from the day he joined. No prize for guessing who my money is on red john but he it could be done by one of his accomplice. In fact this whole idea of the list be fake makes complete sense many of the suspect just don't fit what previous evidence told us. The most famous piece of evidence we have Rosalind description already eliminate 3 out of the 7 suspect. Reed Smith is simply too fat to be red john as Rosalind said red john was Red John is not fat nor strong both are traits of Reed smith. Bret stiles is too old to be red john as Rosalind said red john was of medium age the same goes for Gale bertram also Betram is lacking hair as Roasalind said he had short straight hair this also apply to Sheriff McAllister. Also another point about Bret stiles why would the leader of visualize work on his own lowly farm that was failing don't you think that a job he could of given to some new visualize member like the others at the farm. And Brett Partridge is dead and the list being fake gives us no reason for him to come back so all of you accept it his dead. Now this leaves us with only 2 of the 7 suspects of the list and do you really think Bruno Heller would making finding red john that easy. This also makes alot of sense from a writer perspective it opens up alot more possibility we could see the return of old suspects like Mashburn or even cbi ron. But i personally felt that Mashburn and jane got on too well for him to be red john he let jane drive his very expensive care hardly the act you would do with your mortal enemy. Also i believe cbi ron is just too much of a cheap cop out for them and would had mass back lash. So my money is on Haffner although we see kirkland hold jane hostage i believe this is too mutch of a bold move for red john he isn't even wearing a mask and Haffner is in love with lisbon explaining why red john didn't kill him and he does fit both sophie millers description and Rosalind description so my money is on him.
Although bruno heller did say red john was someone we saw from the start of the show and Haffner is relevantly new in the time line of the show.
Now i have one final topic i wish to discuss and that is what happens after red john is caught we all know that the show is continuing with lisbon,patric and cho all keeping their roles and two new characters joining the team. If you go on the following link http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Nashville-Castle-Spoilers-1071832.aspx and scroll down to the part on the mentalist you see bruno heller explain the meeting of the 3 suspects in episode 2 and he says "The CBI goes through its own sort of institutional crisis," Heller teases. "The walls are crumbling around them as they are trying to solve this big final mystery. Bertram is both a prime suspect as Red John, but also deeply involved in that other plot." this new plot is set to become the primary focus after red john is caught and reed smith, Mcallisiter and gale Bertram will all take primary roles in this new plot. So my final point is we all know names are important in the mentalist and the name red john. John in particular is from the name John the baptist from the bible who was a great prophet in Christianity but more importantly prepared the world for the coming of Jesus so maybe red john is bruno heller way for preparing us for a greater evil then red john and who greater could take this role then Bret stiles and i want to end this post of mine with a line from Bret stiles; "i know more then you or red john could ever know"
Thank you for taking the time to read this very long post and please click that plausible button so more people can see this and take the time to read it thank you.
My guess is that the 7 suspects are all-in-one Red John(like a seven sins ideea). They are all connected. This could explain a lot: "He is mar" = "He is many"; it explains the list being made ahead Jane's thinking; that has many friends and influence; also one step ahead, present almost from the beginning; some of them members of Visualise or all of them, some of them whistle; they all reveal themselves to others(each to whom they had a connection in the past). Maybe Brett is not dead or had to be cut loose.
Think about this ideea in all the situations that you can not explain(in one can be brett, in one can be Kirkland, in one can be Reed and so on...)
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SHAZAM!! KIRKLAND IS DOWN SIR!!
Red John's Last Murder.
I know this is a bit Off Topic, but I've been seeing this for the last three or so seasons.
There has been a fundemental PROBLEM with "The Mentalist" from its start that Bruno Heller has always faced. "What happens when Red John is CAUGHT." For Jane, his work with the CBI is OVER. He's avenged his Family. His work is DONE. That, seemingly CONCLUDES the Series. That's why BH has teased us so miserably the last 5 years with Finales hinting at Red John's end with increasingly preposterous endings.
And I sussed out a way for the series to continue on after Red John's demise. And you're not going to like it.
What is Red John's relationship with Patrick Jane? Why doesn't he simply MURDER his biggest and cleverest foe or mow down his CBI team to force Jane to give up? Why would he have his knife at Lisbon's neck and not kill her? If he wanted to discourage Jane from pursuing him, why doesn't he just mow down Lisbon's team?
Red John has been grooming Jane as his SUCCESSOR. He smells Jane's cold-blooded Sociopathy and actively wants to groom Jane as his successor. So that if he is caught and killed, Jane will continue his legacy so that even in Death, Red John will always live on!
Jane is key to his immortality. Not his weak-minded Cult, but someone truly capable of taking on his mantle. That's why Red John has spared Jane's Death so many times. RJ wants Jane to be GRATEFUL to RJ and the only person RJ trusts to perpetuate his legacy.
Jane has been too strong. He hasn't fallen for any of RJ's tricks. I think Red John has given up on Jane. He wants someone NEW to GROOM. And that person is WAYNE RIGSBY.
RJ wanted to groom Jane into a cold, Sociopathic Killer like himself. He has FAILED. I think RJ has given up on Jane and moved on to Plan B. He accepts that Jane will eventually hunt him down and kill him.
Jane was too strong to fall for RJ's manipulative tricks. But he sees EASY PREY in Rigsby. Rigsby's a Hot Head.
This is my vision of RJ's REVENGE against Jane: When Jane has RJ finally hunted down, RJ will intruct his Cult to HUNT DOWN and KILL GRACE and Rigsby's SON. Red John's final murder. Let Rigsby feel the pain that Jane had felt.
Red John couldn't convert Jane into his chosen successor. Red John LOST. In his place, his Cult of devotees and wannabes turn to absolute CHAOS, with Rigsby wanting to go MEDIEVAL against anything smelling vaguely of Red John. Red John rules beyond the Grave by the swath of Chaos left behind in his Wake. Disciples and Wannabes war against Law Enforcement that just wants to smack down anything vaguely Red John.
Cut off the Head of the Hydra and only more problems emerge.