After the "Red Listed" promo, I'm completely stumped on how Kirkland could fit into things.  Little help?  I mean, consider:

He can't just be someone seeking his own vengeance against RJ, nor can he be a law enforcement guy just trying to find/catch RJ. If he was either of those things, he wouldn't have killed Lennon without trying to learn RJ's identity from him.

But he can't be RJ himself either, because RJ would have no motive for capturing & torturing PJ to get his real list of suspects.

The obvious alternative would be that he's RJ's ally (an enforcer or some such).  He killed Lennon to keep him from telling anyone who RJ is.  He wants PJ's real list in order to learn (A) whether RJ is on it, or (B) anyone else who could identify RJ is on it (and might rat RJ out if cornered himself, etc.).

But even that doesn't really make sense.  Because it's not like he could torture PJ and then leave him alive to tell how Kirkland tortured him;  he'd have to kill PJ once he got the info he wanted.  And certainly, RJ isn't about to let a mere ally be the one to kill PJ.  If PJ were going to die, RJ would want to do it himself.

So I can't figure out his angle.  Anyone have an ideas?  Please comment and share.  :)

Bret Stiles can´t be RJ-not because he´s too old ,but because  head of a "church" being a Serial killer in an US TV Show might be too offensive to Tom Cruise and his buddies...

i think it´s kirkland.sometimes the obvious is the less exspected.

and please stop this anagramming everything and sign reading Thing.
7 swans,8 pidgeons...who ´cares?
I´m looking Forward to a great final Episode! Keep guessing!

Rosalind Harker has given a lot of insight into RJ (His hands, his voice, his love for classical music (Bach) etc etc.)

The question is WHY is Jane not putting these to test? Why?

He is focused on his list of suspects, which is understandable, But what is stopping him from putting these men in front of Harker?

Don't you think that this list is made up? a diversion? Else, I think Jane would be the first person to use Harker for eliminating suspects from his list.

Also, he never made an attempt to get in touch with Rosalind......whats up with that? Some might argue that he may not want to risk rosalind's life by getting in tough with her.....but if RJ wants to kill her, he will anyways.....

I know heller mentioned that list is legit, but tell you what, he is a fictional writer, and like all fictional writers.....he may have lied to the press (with good intentions of providing us with a surprise ending)

just a few facts

the list is fake, it is of course a bait to reveal red john

The real list is in patrick s mind; not that hard to memorize a few names for somebody like jane

red john probably thinks now that he is more clever than patrick and he wants to prove it by killing more.

that s exactly what patrick wants.

I cant believe that I am reading
almost all theories posted on this site everyday. There are some good theories
but others are too far-fetched. I have watched the 2 episodes of this season 3
times. I feel like I missing something. There are so many clues. But we are
missing a lot of information in order to make a good guess. Jane has a plan to
catch RJ but he is playing his mind games and he is not letting anyone know
about it. This is how he usually solves the weekly cases.

Red John has been ahead of Jane
so many times and i think that Jane is setting him up. He may or may not have
told Lisbon about his plans. He is pretending to be freaked out in the first
episode. I think he wanted Lisbon to reveal the list to Van Pelt and others. He
was not enough angry when he discovered Wayne and Cho also knows about his
list. Bertram told Jane that he knows he is getting close and I believed that
maybe Van Pelt told him or the CBI is bugged. Bertram is spying on Jane Thats
why Jane went to this attic to listen to the Sophie’s recording.

Bruno Heller said that there is
something wrong in the California law enforcement. I think that Bertram and his
poker friends are corrupted. And Red John knows about their wrongdoings. RJ don’t
necessary hypnotized all his followers but he blackmailed them to do his
bidding. This is how Jane does it sometime. Blackmailing LaRoche to give him
the list in season 3 or Bertram to get Lorelei from the FBI. Reed Smith and
Bertram desperately want to know about Jane’s progress because if RJ is caught
then they are going to be in trouble. Bertram looked very worried when he found
out that Partridge is dead. The reason why he died will be revealed later. My
guess is that Partridge was corrupted as well. He was probably removing
evidence at crime scenes. And RJ killed as a warning to Bertram and companions.


I have to admit I was not sure
Partridge was really dead but obviously there was someone else in the house in
the first episode. I find it strange how Lisbon got this call. RJ planned this
very well. I not sure about the clue Bruno Heller is talking. Visualize is
involved with Red John somehow, we will discover soon. I have suspicion RJ did
not kill those men in the barn but Stiles actually did. RJ was there and hiding
in the basement. I think that how he started killing people.

Kirkland is a very mysterious
man. I think most of agree by now that he is on a personal mission. He is after
RJ too just like Jane. Jane obviously had a fake list on his board. And thats
the fake list in episode 4. Maybe he is killing them. So Bertram, Smith, Stiles
and Kirkland is out. We are left with Haffner and McAllister. They both whistle
and very strong suspects. Personally, I think Ray is a too obvious choice but
could definitely be an accomplice. He is currently the most popular one because
of the scene at the hospital. He was creepy. The sheriff would make a great RJ.
He is a sheriff and thus he can be inconspicuous. He was weird in the episode 2
of season 1 which was written by Heller himself. The episode was about a serial
killer couple. Red John has serial killer friends like Timothy/Sally Carter,
Todd Johnson and maybe others.

I am really looking forward to
how Bruno will tell this story to make it epic.

Thanks for reading.

 

Just a quick question to all.......please comment.....

A lot of people think that Jane is RJ (Split personality et al)........

If this is true, then why do we need to watch episode 9 onward this season? to hear Jane explain why he killed his wife and kids?

And I think usually there are about 22 episodes per season, so if RJ (Who as per some people is Jane) is revealed in season 8, the are welooking at 14 episodes of jane's explanation?

I know a lot of people will rate it unlikely or plausible.....I am not doing it for the rating.....I am just trying to understand what you guys think.....

All in all, I just hope Heller comes up with something unique.....because one can only guess so much, and I think ALL possible outcomes have been discussed.......

Thanks.

Ok if the list is really correct then we have two suspects. I will explain why others from the list cant be RJ.
First kirkland - if he was RJ lennon would recognise him and lorelie couldnt have known that he has shaken hands with jane

Smith cant be RJ because when he met Jane lorelei was in prison so she couldnt have known that he shook hands with Jane

Stiles isnt RJ because he wouldnt be described as a kid in 1988 because he was like 35-40 back then

Bertram isnt RJ because Smith told him it was his job to watch jane. RJ does not take orders so he isnt RJ

Partridge is dead ( if he isnt he is still a possible suspect )

you have haffner and sheriff thomas. I dont know if you guys remember this but Rosalind said that RJ likes to listen Bach so i would play Bach in front of haffner and sheriff thomas to see how they react.