Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Not really suspecting anyone yet, but just a theory on Partridge.

I don't yet buy that Partridge is out of the picture.  There are some similarities here, such as weight, size, and especially voice which doesn't seem to be masked by any kind of device.  Red John knows Patrick has a list of 7 suspects and one is him, a good idea might be to kill off one on that list, him, obviously this would have to be faked.  Think about it, Lisbon found Partridge, then got knocked out, almost looked like she was tripped, i.e. partridge pulling out her legs from underneath her while talking to Patrick.  We know RJ has many connections, could be working with someone to fake his death, we have not seen/heard anyone on Lisbon's team investigate the body, they might just be going on someone else's word, as there's no real reason to think otherwise.  Remember, in one episode, Rigsby faked his death without no one knowing.  Keep in mind also, that Partridge repeated a part of the poem, which PJ and team most likely never mentioned to him, at least they didn't in any episodes, even if RJ told it to him, why repeat it to Lisbon?  Also, why kill Partridge, what would be the point, especially due to his incompetence, I don't see Partridge giving him any real reason.  Not saying I necessarily think it's him, just that I think it's still within the realm of possibility, we'll have to wait to see for sure.

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☺ He matches the physical description Rosalind Harker gave Jane. ◔̯◔
☺ He is affiliated with Visualize, and Red John is as revealed in season 5 (when they show a smiley face painted on a house owned by Visualize).  ๏̯͡๏
☺ Red John's alias is Roy. Ray. Roy. You see where I'm going with this.  ॓_॔
☺ He is involved with the police/CBI so it's easy for him to know someone on the inside that can cover up his tracks.  ๏̯͡๏
☺ He visited Lisbon at the hospital to check on her and he said they should date in the future. This affection could be a reason Red John didn't kill her when he killed Brett Partridge.  ๏̯͡๏
☺ As revealed in season 1 episode 16, one of Jane's clients is "Amy Haffner". Am I seeing a possible relationship . . . ? ◕ ‿ ◕

☹ The only thing making me a little hesitant on choosing him as RJ is that in season 4, when he was Jane's boss, Jane tricked him into believing he had solved a case by placing false evidence at the crime scene. If RJ is always a step ahead of Jane, then this wouldn't be the case. I still think, however, that RJ was just playing Jane to see how smart he really was.  ◕︵◕

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This is just a short theory on why Pj is NOT Rj.

As we see at the end of episode 3 this season (when Grace and Rigsby get married), Pj cries when he sees this. It's obvious that Rj is a sociopath, this is what I think a message from Heller saying that Pj is NOT Rj.

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A clear suspect is yet to be developed.

These episodes are simply opening up new leads. For example, Red John is a middle aged man with good posture. Can this really eliminate anyone for sure? You could argue that this takes Stiles out of the picture, but it is debatable. The only one we can be 100% positive about is Partridge considering the fact that he is dead...why he said Tyger, Tyger to Lisbon was confusing though? Do you think he was the person who came to talk to Patrick in Red Sky in the Morning? Their voices were similar.

As for this weeks episode, very little new evidence was found, if any. This episode did nothing to exclude a suspect. I personally do not believe that the tape recording about Roth being afraid of heights means anything. Couldn't he have been lying? Who says that Red John would tell the truth to a psychiatrist? McAllister saving Jane's life on the roof was just another way Heller is trying to confuse us.

What are your thoughts on the meeting between McAllister, Bertram and Smith? "How much does Jane really know?" I don't know what to think. One of them might be RJ, and the others could be accomplices.

I'm looking forward to the next episode. It's going to be a good one.

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-He first appears in Episode 1 of season 1. 
-He gives Jane odd glances and dirty looks in ep1, almost like he's mocking Jane with his eyes.
-He asks Jane if he's 'psychic or something' even though Jane never said anything about him being psychic (again, he's mocking him, because it was Jane pretending to be psychic that made RJ kill Jane's family).
-He appears out of nowhere for an undetermined reason and surprised Van Pelt.  He comes out of the woods, which are filled with PINE TREES.  In Rosalind's description of "Roy", she says he smelled of "pine, nails, and earth".
-There's a scene where he walks toward the camera in the middle of the episode and he walks exactly the way Red John does in "Red Sky in the Morning".  You have to see it.  It's pretty apparent and jumped out at me almost immediately.
-He knows how to shoot a gun, as does RJ in Red Sky in the Morning.


-He has a ring on his left hand, just like Roy had during Rosalind's Phone Call, where Roy visited Rosalind and held the tea cup.
-For some reason it is suggested that RJ is tied to police officers.  There is a policeman in the colors that McAllister wears speeding by in "The Crimson Hat".
-Also the title of the Episode:  The Crimson Hat.  McAllister is the only one who wears a hat regularly.
-The man who poisoned Rebecca was wearing a police uniform similar to that of McAllister.
-Todd Johnson was killing cops, for some reason.
-McAllister wears pointed shoes, and so does Red John.
-It is implied that Red John has a real phobia.  It is either fear of heights, or something else.  There are many depictions of birds, especially in seasons 6, implying that RJ's secret fear could be birds.  McAllister is either afraid of, or just hates birds.

-It has been revealed that McAllister is a hunter and moves with some amount of stealth. 
-He's also quite strong to lift Patrick up off the side of the roof.  RJ lifted Jane (by the chair) at the end of Red Sky in the Morning, and also saved his life, just like McAllister saved Jane's life here.

**Probably the biggest factor pointing towards RJ being McAllister is the 'handshake'.  I always wondered why the 7 suspects didn't ALL have on-screen handshakes, considering Jane shook hands with far more than seven people, and most of those people were just as obscure as McAllister.  So why did McAllister make the list even though he had an off-screen handshake?

Gale Bertram, Ray Haffner, Bob Kirkland, all had on-screen handshakes.  So if RJ was one of them, then why didn't the other suspects also have on-screen handshakes?  It would have made things so much easier.  My guess is because Bruno Heller came up with the handshake idea WAY after he already decided on who Red John was going to be, and he never filmed a handshake between Jane and that person.  The people on Jane's list who had an off-screen handshake were: Brett Partridge, Bret Stiles, Reede Smith, and Sheriff Thomas McAllister.  Partridge is dead, so he's out. Stiles is too old, if the description of Jay Roth being 'middle aged' is to be believed.  Reede Smith came into the picture AFTER Bruno Heller said that Red John had already been cast and we may have already seen him.  The only off-screen handshake that works is the Sheriff's.  And there was no reason to include off-screen handshakes unless the REAL red John never shook Jane's hand on-screen.

Also, one last thing...out of all of the final 7 suspects, which one seems the MOST out of place?  Think about it.  Everyone other than Stiles and McAllister is part of the CBI/FBI group.  McAllister and Reede are the only 2 who were seen just once before season 6.  McAllister is the only one who was brought back ALLLL the way from season 1, and who was NEVER in any other episodes (that we know about).  Stiles was in several episodes.  McAllister's slot as one of the 7 makes absolutely no sense on any level.  If he was meant to be a bluff, there are much better, more believable bluffs (Royston Daniels, Ellis Mars, even CBI Ron).  He's the least-likely suspect because of our lack of knowledge about him, and the fact that we haven't seen him directly for 5 years.  So why bring him back, unless he isn't a bluff at all?

The way I see it, there's a kind of symmetry within the show itself if McAllister ends up being Red John.  The person Jane meets at the very start was all-along his greatest enemy.  His journey could have ended as soon as it began, but he didn't see it, because he wasn't looking for it.  We the viewers also weren't looking for it when we saw it.  So in a way, we went on Jane's journey with him, and everything has come full circle.

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Theory #6161 • By Daveboy
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The finale of season 3 was geared on who is RJ's accomplice.
Right at the beginning of the episode, the team meet up at an Irish pub. I immediately realised that O'Laughlin was the accomplice as his name is Irish. I'm surprised not a lot of people caught this.
I really hope it isn't as easy to guess RJ's identity in episode 8 as that will be such an anti-climax.
Thanks for your time.
P.S My money is on Mashburn or CBI Ron. Jus' sayin

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