Lisbon is actually in league with red john that is why the nurse asked for a different name when she was in the hospital bed because she also has a different past and that's how red john new the names on the list and Bret partridge isn't really dead!
Haffner is my #2 suspect. Now this is not a theory, but an observation. Maybe some of you can share your insights on this.
Lisbon dos not share important pieces of information with Jane (whereas she gets angry when Jane does not share information with her) or at least there are are some things she has not shared with Jane on camera. There are two things she has not shared with Jane (I may be wrong about the first one, so correct me if I am wrong).
1) She has not told Jane that Haffner is a member of Visualize
2) She did not think it was important to tell Jane that Haffner visited her in the hospital
We could assume that she did share this info with Jane, but not on the show. That actually seems more plausible than suggesting that she does not think it is important to tell him these things about a man who is on his list or that she is hiding information.
Or is it?
*WARNING, HUGE RED JOHN SPOILERS AHEAD*
Hi,
My theory is an unpopular one, but don't just hit the red thumb.
I am certain that Red John is Marlon Dingle from Emmerdale.
Now, I know that this seems unlikely because Emmerdale and The Mentalist are different TV shows, but a collaboration is not out of the question. I also believe a few of you will have come up with this theory too, so please, let's share our ideas.
There are a few things that make me certain of this:
1. The voice;
We know that Red John has a high pitched voice, and I think you will agree that in this clip Marlon Dingle's voice is also rather high pitched, when he wants it to be: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwbXArwp19Y
2. Law enforcement connections;
In the video clip above, we see Marlon is a member of the local law enforcement. We know Red John has influence over the CBI and other local law enforcement agencies. It would make sense if Marlon gained this influence by working his way up the ladder of the FBI or Homeland Security - making friends on the inside.
3. Appearance;
From this picture, and the video above, you can see that Marlon matches Rosalind Harker's description exactly. He would make the perfect Red John. When he smiles, his face also bears a strong resemblance to the famous Red John smiley face.This should convince you that Marlon is Red John. http://files.list.co.uk/images/2012/07/16/9df367ec6a7771d4854bc0b5fccbbfa5f3dab10d.jpg
4. "He is Mar"; http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2009/01/mentalist-heisman.png
This CLEARLY implies that the man Red John killed was trying to write "He is Marlon". This almost proves Marlon Dingle is infact Red John by itself.
5. "Gonna Red Mill";
Marlon Dingle is an anagram of "Gonna Red Mill", i.e. Marlon is going to paint the mill red. The mill actually refers to the barn where Red John ( or should I call him Red Marlon! ) painted his smiley face!
6. "Tyger Tyger";
As we know, the line "Tyger, Tyger" is repeated often by associates of Red John. In this picture, we see Marlon wearing an orange and black shirt. Which animals have an orange and black striped coat? You guessed it, tigers! http://www.emmerdale.org/emmerdale/Picture_Gallery/thumb_size/marlon1_dedication.JPG
Thanks for reading my theory and I hope this has enlightened you. Maybe now you can all stop posting theories about the "7 suspects" and we can collect enough evidence to prove, once and for all, that Marlon Dingle is Red John!
Well, i can't say right now who Red John is. But i agree with some of the theories I have seen on this site; Episode 1-7 in season 6 will show that all the 7 suspects can be Red John, and I'm pretty sure, that we will know his identity in episode 8.
My guess on who he is.. Many. Mayby all 7, and one of them is the "leader". If I had to put all my money on one of them right now, then it would be Betram. But no one can say for sure who it is right now.
I do have a theory about Kirkland to be Red John. His interest in Red John and his break into Janes room can be a false interest to make him look innocent as being Red John. That would be a great trick, right?
I also think that too many believe in every word that Rosalind said about Red Johns look etc. If she revealed too much about him, then I'm pretty sure she would have been killed.
How did we miss this? Right under our noses:
http://www.imageshack.com/i/0amsldj
Tiger Tiger burning bright
In the forest of the night
what immortal hand or eye
could frame thy fearful symmetry
The Tiger is Red John.
And then... further on..
When the stars threw down their spears
And wat'rd heaven with their tears
Did he smile His work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
There's more to the poem of course... But... The last line is telling. The "lamb" is the cult, Visualize. It offers techniques against rage and aggression, and is against things like brainwashing, a fairly peaceful cult.
The poem basically is about god's creation of the fearsome, deadly heart of the tiger, and marvels at how god could have created such a wicked, evil creature, while also creating the gentle lamb. In this case, "god" is not an immortal being, but rather, the creator of Visualize, Bret Stiles.
So, who is the Tiger? A rogue member of visualize. Ray Haffner is a confirmed member of Visualize. Unless someone else has been a member of visualize, he is the only one that fits the riddle of this poem. .
Next, we have the line... "Red John Likes the Cold"
This is likely a riddle as well.
It may be hinting that Red John's name is the same as some place that's very cold. If that's so, then, there's a place in Canada called "Haffner Creek". It's an ice climbing site. I couldn't find anything similar for the other suspects.
Finally, Ray Haffner also fits much of Red John's profile, without being completely obvious.
first lets go back to the list. It s quite obvious that jane has another list in mind as I cant see any of them being red john .
This list is just a bait because he needed to bring red john into the light again, but also the 7 suspects could be for him possible red john 's associates.
That s why he is checking them carefully.
red john is walter mashburn.
I found this guy quite intriguing ,even too obvious to be Red John at the beginning . But none of the 7 suspects are smart enough to be red john.
red john is a real psychopath, cold blood, narcissist, thinking hes more clever than anybody ,he wouldnt pretend to be a fool, this would damage his pride.
he wouldnt show any weaknesses , he has to be in control, always one step ahead.
You can feel mashburn is bored in his confortable life ,he has everything money can provide and murdering people gives him the thrill.
red john has a lot of connections , lots of leverage (money can buy nearly anything) .
a few clues in the mix :
- patrick jane made a very good portrait of mashburn ,and walter found this description very appropriate and was flattered ,being a narcissist . at this stage, patrick was describing a psychopath
- mashburn was once talking about previous relationships (or victims) ,talking about one being a psychic (krystyna frye )
- the blood on the wall , "he is ma"shburn would fit
- stated " maybe next time im the killer" in one episod, meaning that he would kill again.
- when patrick killed the fake red john, he simulated a severe depression to reveal the real one again. when mashburn decided to try to bring patrick on his side he sent lorelei. she mentionned 2 important clues , stating they could have been friends and that they shook hands . In the few episods we ve seen, they were getting quite well with each other, both being intrigued, surprised or challenged.
- They look alike, both are charming, cuning, dominating the others. this is about the perfect symetry in the poem , seeing a reflection of their own in the mirror.
- eventually walter managed to get lisbon , he could have seen her as a game of their rivalry.thats why patrick cannot trust lisbon anymore as he found out about their affair, even if he still has feeling for her.
thats also why mashburn didnt kill her in episod1 because he is still using her against patrick.