Hello You all!
First of all I wanna thank those guy who did this page! :-)
But I have a question!
Why still everybody tries to find out who could be RJ from the list of 7!?
After Patrick gets the message of RJ (that he knows the list) it seems really clear to me that - of course - nobody of the list of 7 is RJ! RJ plays with patrick like with a puppet and so he knew those 7 names.
But i really dont think RJ is one of them!
Best!
Rick
What if someone (Maybe Danny) has been hypnotized and is hypnotizing Patrick Jane to be "the face" of Red John?
So the real Red John is Danny, but everybody that works with Red John thinks he is Patrick Jane.
This would explain a lot of things..
http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/6096
The link above is to a theory why RJ will kill Sherriff McCallister, thus symbolically proving he's RJ. My theories are pretty ridiculous, but I hope they entertain, haha.
Here is my speculative theory. As Sophie Miller records her notes on RJ vocally, and Patrick says "acrophobia" is the fear of heights to enlighten the audience, wouldn't it be convenient if there was a phobia which sounds like acrophobia and Patrick mishears Sophie or pretends to... Sure agrophobia and agoraphobia fit, but they're hard to make a theory out of. What about Acaraphobia though, hmm? It is a fear of small crawlers, termites and insects that bite.
Look at Partridge's behaviour in episode 1 of season 6 in the desert. As the scene goes on, the buzzing of the flies is more and more prominent, and Partridge looks more and more in discomfort. When Patrick comes closer and stares, Partridge looks scared/bothered. Is he scared/bothered by Patrick or the flies on their shoulders. Even Patrick notes that he's a very good actor afterwards. But what if Partridge really was only bothered by the flies,
And the BS on top, for extra ridiculousness, (don't consider this part of the theory, its just a laugh), Partridge is fond of pigeons because they grab and gobble termites and other insects.
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Along with Brett Partridge's script + the amount of dramatic irony in there if you watch, thinking/knowing he's RJ, and him matching Bruno Heller's clues as well as Rosalynd Harker's descriptions, there are stacks of points to BP being RJ.
These are just a few examples; I am not making a Megatheory.
Script:
1. His first line is "Red John enters here."
2. In season 2, there is symmetry between Patrick scaring him, and his retaliation as Rj scares Patrick in the finale.
Dramatic Irony:
3. Season 6: "I've been at the Redjohn crime scenes since he began."
Val Ziskin (photographer), working with BP, later says "I've always wanted to work with one of the famous serial killers."
4, He calls Patrick, "amigo" in season 2 meeting, after killing Jared Renfrew in Mexico.
Random observations.
Crystine Frye is sister of FBI agent who shot the CBI head.
Strange how suddenly 1 month ago CBI dropped non-dating rule among agents. PJ seemed to be happy about. I doubt there will be happy ending for new weds.
Amazing amount red head people in series 2% of population are red headed.
Mystery of one of them, van Pelt is still to be revealed.
i want to my thoughts with you guys.
First, I think the Carmen lee was some of message from red john or could have been nothing. Carmen is the colour RED and reminded jane of Sophie somehow.
Secondly, red john has been using kirkland info on jane. He has been under surveillance for 9 yrs. Rj told jane to roll tide in season 2 finale. This is what kristina frye told the waiter. So rj overheard their conversation. I think kirkland have met Rj and has trusted him with his investigation but he does know it. And Rj has been using kirkland to stay one step ahead of Jane. We still dont know Rj friend in the FBI. Alexa Schultz knows about kirkland investigation she was the one to call Minelli. Maybe she is Rj contact.
ok , let me start this off by saying many people probably understood heller wrong when he said the suspect was on the list .. because this is what happened:- "Heller can we trust the list" ...
answer:-"yes we can trust the list" .. you guys know how bruno .. even if the list is fake he can't just say that straight up.. My guess is the list is real but with 1 or 2 extra suspects jane has saved in his mind .."Just incase" now let me get back to "What if red john is on the list" , Let me start excluding suspects using completely logical and reasonable arguments , we know that Red john himself went to sophie miller as Jay roth, Back then Brett stiles was famous and too high profile to risk being identified by sophie miller.. secondly he did break out Lorelei martins out of prison , red john would of never done that unless he wanted that to happen.. which he didn't , Ok so brett stiles out , Brett partridge Assuming he is dead which he probably is.. is out aswell , Leaving 5 people , Kirkland goes down the drain in a heart beat because of the season 3 episode 4 promo.. #1 ..torturing jane for the real list of suspects which red john already has.. , #2. he broke into janes room and stole his info while red john knew the list way before ,,
Now we have 4 suspects left ,,, Lets try our best to exclude 2 more , Gale bertram first... Gale bertram as the director of CBI is too high profile to walk into Sophie millers office just pretending to be someone else.. secondly he doesnt have the correct physical features and seems like he doesnt have the correct charisma... now we can't really exclude reede smith out of anything but i just will go with my hunch and say hes too shallow to be red john....
Now we're left with 2 people .. Sherrif thomas mcallister ..
Raymond haffner
Now the sherrif would make a good red john because of one thing , The actor Xander berkly has been the criminal mastermind of the show nikita and is a very skilled and talented actor and many clues were represented about him in season 6 episode 3 ... "His stealthy movement, the fact that when red john saved jane and came back to scare him he moved quietly.. secondly.. he saved jane on the roof top , could that be a sign , that red john saved his life twice?... thirdly his pointy shoes .. when rj saved jane from the copy cat killers he was wearing pointy shoes aswell... theres the scene when he freaked out from the pigeons oluaghlin asking van pelt to come to napa county...him whisteling.. etc etc
Haffner also suits because of some clues such as him liking Teresa Lisbon and him being from visualize , having money , being charming and yet creepy at the same time... Also one scene where he asks cho "Who do you think is smarter , me or jane?" cho says definitely jane.. Haffner then has the creepiest smile on and walks away as if thinking if hes smarter he would of caught me by now....
Anyways thank you guys for reading this long ass post hope this has helped you out i can keep going on and on and on on possibilities outside the list and interviews with heller and etc etc let me know what you guys think in the comments and Feel free to ask any questions , thank you and bye bye
I believe Patrick Jane is Red John.
If we put aside the obvious and blatant connection between the names "Jane" and "John" we should consider the conversation between Jane and Tommy in the episode "Red Flame" about "Moby Dick": Tommy states that the whale died at the end. Moby Dick killed Ahab, but survived. That story, like the Mentalist tells of an endless hunt that ultimately destroy's captain Ahab. Keeping PJ's promise that when he finds RJ he will kill him (and thus revealing the anger in him) tells of an upcoming showdown which the "psychic" RJ should be able to prevent just by killing Patrick in the same way narrowed the suspect list despite that "nobody" knew of the said list.
Another evidence of this connection is the fact that Red left agent Lisbon alive when he so easily could've killed the person that matters the most to Jane just as he did in the pilot.