Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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"Full theory," with details of RJ's identity/accomplices/list-guessing trick/what *actually* happens in episode 1-3 can be found in my, "Full theory" (The link is at the bottom)----------------------------
FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS JACK PLOTNICK (BRETT PARTRIDGE) IS DEAD


People who say "Brett Partridge is dead. Obviously means he's not Redjohn." I think you're taking things too literally, on purpose now. (You just don't WANT it to be him) Look up the word: alias. Redjohn wasn't born called Redjohn. He has more than one alias, but he has one physical body. Redjohn could kill an alias, and no body would lose life. ERGO, CBS/BRUNO HELLER TECHNICALLY NEVER TOLD A LIE.

To make this easier, I'm going to call him Jack Plotnick (actor for Partridge). Jack Plotnick is playing at least 3 roles off screen. Roy Tagliaferro, Redjohn and Brett Partridge.

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SPOILER ALERT: PROOF JACK PLOTNICK IS REDJOHN: If you're not aware, I posted a theory which makes the season 6 RJ plot transparent. Be warned, you may not understand it, but its all there. Everything. So if you don't want to know, don't read.

Here is 1/12th preview of it (probably the weakest part of the whole theory).

IN THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF DESERT ROSE, PATRICK JANE GAINS THE INFORMATION HE NEEDS TO CATCH REDJOHN. HE ONLY CONNECTS THE DOTS ONCE LISBON IS KIDNAPPED. THE OTHER 11/12ths OF MY THEORY SHOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING AFTER THAT.

First 10 Minutes: Patrick Jane, an excellent reader of people, meets Brett Partridge in the desert. Rewatch the scene! Look for the flies! Listen for the buzzing! Partridge is not behaving as he usually does. He's irked, but not by Patrick, but by the flies. Patrick, I'm sure notices this, but thinks nothing of it. At the end of the scene, Partridge is crestfallen that his phobia will reveal that he is Redjohn. Partridge knows Bosco told Jane his phobia. So he plans his own demise with the help of Haffner (expert in surveillance) and lures Lisbon (BEAR WITH ME.)


10 hours later: Jane knows who Redjohn is; This is what Jane remembers:

Season 2: Sam Bosco is shot for finding out Redjohn dislikes bugs/flies. He tells Patrick this on his deathbed. The closest, we, as an audience ever get to this is: Lisbon toasts "To Bosco, a damn fly agent." Bruno Heller uses dramatic irony here, for the benefit of DVD viewers. If you don't know what that is, then there's just no point...

Still don't believe me? I didn't expect you to. Bosco's chat with Jane was never revealed. BUT Here's how we the audience members know Partridge is Redjohn.

Bruno Heller's ultimate clue: Redjohn likes cold. Insects are cold-blooded and do not like the cold, hence why Redjohn likes it.

Episode 2:
Jane walks into Bertram's room with the 3 accomplices and says "I've always suspected this room was BUGGED." With great emphasis + pause before BUGGED. Hence why the accomplices Bertram and Reede are edgy. Patrick is sending a message to RJ  (explained in my theory + I also explain the mystery of how RJ guesses Jane's list in the full theory.)

Episode 3:
Sophie Miller says Redjohn has acrophobia, oops wait NO, she says ACARAPHOBIA. A fear of insects/bugs. Jane is misleading Lisbon in episode 3. Explanations can be found why in my main theory.
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Full Theory can be found here:

http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/6373

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I think it is Patrick Jane.

He is very clever, fits the build and is never around when RJ things go down. I think he has a split personality.

Have you ever watched Fight Club? #wwtdd
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Despite the interesting quote from Mashburn, "I have a lot of friends. Sheriff's Department, mayor's office..." I really don't think he is RJ.

I'll tell you why... Yes, he has a ring on, but it's on his RIGHT hand (ring finger)

Mashburn is NOT afraid of heights, as noted when his car runs off the edge of the cliff in episode 13 season 2.

I know that some people have referenced Dr. Miller's list of patients and the fact that it had someone with the last name Washburn on it, but that's too far a stretch in my opinion. Why would they replace the M with a W it's just a really silly thing that I don't think means anything at all (people are reading too far into it!)

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This is my first time posting. I have been reading the theories as they come, but it seems to me that as we get closer to the end, the theories are becoming more and more wild.

I think it is Walter Mashburn because I believe that the most eloquent clue so far has come from Lorelei Martins when she tells Jane that he is so much like Red John. I think GlaDon said this a few posts ago, but to find out who Red John is, we must look for someone a LOT like Jane.

So far, only Walter Mashburn fits that description. The man has some serious charisma (he got Lisbon to fall for him), and is incredibly manipulative (Jane did not think Mashburn was a socio/psychopath when he first met him). Mashburn also has more than enough money to finance his 'hobbies'.

No matter how hard I look at it, and from any angle, I just dont see anyone on this now infamous list of seven to fit this mold of who Red John is. Red John would hate to be told by someone who is his superior at work, what to do and what not to do. He cannot stand being insulted, he is very proud. He believes in his own superiority in everything. He's not going to be someone who works under someone else- he will answer to no one but himself.

I also think that theres something undefinable about Mashburn. Like Sophie Miller, the psychologist, says, when she talks about Red John, that something about him makes her uneasy. I had those same thoughts about Mashburn when we were watching the episode with him.

Last, please comment on this. I'd to know if anyone has EVIDENCE that it just quite simply CANNOT be Mashburn. Thank you!

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Theory #6409 • By how7suspects
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  I want juste to know, how did Red John found the names on the list of 7 suspetcs ! maybe from Kirkland? maybe read Patrick jane mind? ...

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Theory #6408 • By Murphy
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This theory is a loose one and just a wild thought;

I was watching the pilot today, in which they mention  how people look at the magicians assistant instead of the magician. Maybe Bertram, Smith etc are trying to hide their shady goings on by creating a distraction, maybe they created Red John!

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When I
first saw Jane’s suspect list, I had a feeling that all had something to do with
the seven sins. With all the Blake connections, tiger and the lamb, the coexistence
of evil and good, I thought it was a little more than just a coincidence that
Jane had seven suspects.


I am
thinking that there are 6 sinners on that list together with RJ. They somehow
made bad choices, big mistakes, which brought them to RJ, made them vulnerable
and dependent. Maybe not all of them know who RJ really is. However, they do
his bidding, most probably providing information, cleaning up his mess, etc. not
too lose their positions or freedom. I think they also got to know each other over
the years and developing their own plan to get rid of RJ. That would be my
explanation for the trailer of 6x4, where Kirkland tries to get Jane’s list, as
well as all for all the discussions “Can we trust him?” or “How much does Jane
exactly know?”. Bertram wants to be at the scene, maybe to make sure that RJ
will not be arrested and brought to court. This way he can prevent him to name
them as his disciples. These 6 on the list were the most valuable ones so far,
so RJ wanted to keep them and didn’t dispose them like he usually does.



Coming back
to the 7 sins, after some googling and a rerun of “The Name of the Rose” I have
found the list of sins, colors, and punishments:


Pride
(Violet): broken on the wheel


Envy
(Green): put in freezing water


Sloth
(Light blue): thrown in snake pits


Greed
(Yellow): put in cauldron of boiling oil


Gluttany
(Orange): forced to eat rats, toads and snakes
Lust
(Blue): smothered in fire and brimstone


Wrath
(Red): dismembered alive



Today I saw
the title of the 6th episode “Fire and brimstone” and I was just tempted to
post my thoughts here to get maybe some hints to match suspects and sins :)
Considering RJ’s style, I don’t really believe that the punishments will comply
with the list, and also some of them will survive the hunt.

With the
way he behaved himself in episode 1x2 drooling over VanPelt, McAllister would
qualify rather well for lust.



I have a
feeling that Partridge takes either envy or sloth.

Stiles or
Bertram could fit to greed? Kirkland could fit to pride, Smith maybe gluttony?



My gut
tells me RJ is Haffner. However, I actually don’t know much about the past of
most suspects, so it is nothing more than a wild guess.

This makes
me admire the work of Heller even more, with all the twists. I think we will
have some flashbacks in the post RJ episodes. I like very much that, Jane more
or less impersonates all the sins himself and still can strive for redemption
and how RJ is portrayed as the proud Master, who can convert people with
weaknesses to sinners, and a sinner like Jane to a good honest man.

 

 

 



thanks for reading :)

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