Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I'm thinking that the scene in the preview for the next episode is obviously meant to be misleading...
My guess would be that Kirkland has Jane and wants to get the names from him, but somebody interferes, and then Red John (or one of his associates) is going to be the one torturing Kirkland instead...
So the question is:  What is the final clue that Patrick is going to get in this episode?
Did Patrick set up Kirkland to get the final clue?
Somebody else mentioned that Patrick would know that if he was in danger, that Red John might save him again...

Anyway, just looking forward to tomorrow night!

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I'd first like to point out several series inconsistencies revolving around each of the suspects, inconsistencies that imply the suspects are not Red John because they imply something else.

Bret Stiles is nearly usurped by Jason Cooper in Visualize, yet the next time we see Jason Cooper, he's still on Visualize's Board of Elders. His explanation that Bret Stiles is a very forgiving person. What? No, he's not. All the evidence we've seen of him suggests that, while highly intellectual, mercy is not in his vocabulary. Two pertinent points regarding Visualize stick out to me. Red John was either a member as a late teenager or he hung around members. Bret Stiles has intimate connections with Red John. If he doesn't know who Red John is, he knows how to get in touch with him. Finally, Jason Cooper is going to be in the episode where all the Red John suspects are gathered together by Jane, which implies the scene is going to be held at Visualize.

Is it not likely that Jason Cooper, around the same age as Bret Stiles and in a position of authority that is nearly equal to Stiles, knows who Red John is as well? Before the list of 7 came out, I would have put Cooper on the list. Now, I think that he's fully aware of Red John's identity. However, there's NO CHANCE he'd try to take over Visualize if Bret is Red John. Absolutely none. If Red John is leading Visualize, nobody that knows this is going to try to stage a coup. I believe that this sufficiently rules out Bret Stiles as a suspect.

Kirkland time. Besides the overwhelming evidence that he's going to die tomorrow night, there's the simple matter that Loralei made the video and died three episodes before Kirkland had men brake into Jane's room. Meaning that Red John didn't get his information from Kirkland. Kirkland has no connection to Red John as an accomplice, associate, or acquaintance. As many other theorists have concluded, he's searching for Red John as well. Why? That's anybody's guess, but given the way he kills Jason Lennon, I would hazard a guess it's because Kirkland had a personal relationship to Loralei's twin and he also deduced that Red John killed her, motivating him for revenge just as Jane is motivated. Kirkland is gone too, probably quite permanently in about 24 hours.

Brett Partridge. I have to include this paragraph because of all the theories that he's still alive. I believe they are supported by the lack of any on-screen evidence following his murder. If the show's producer's didn't want us wondering about his life or lackthereof, they'd include some sort of a shot of his dead body at the beginning of the second episode. He would also never quote The Tiger if he was uninvolved with Red John, and given all the previous evidence supporting him as Red John, it's unlikely he'd be a Red John accomplice and more likely he'd be Red John himself. It could also be possible that he is dead and that he orchestrated his own murder to deny Patrick the pleasure of killing him. This conclusion is supported by the 'big clue' at the end of the first episode of season 6, which is the wrong eyes on Lisbon's makeup. Red John wouldn't screw that up. Somebody who is ordered to kill him, somebody who has never drawn the face before, would. That's my theory, as far fetched as it may be, and to all those who point to the list of actors in the Red John reveal episode, the cast list in other television shows has been disguised to keep a plot point hidden, and there are no legal requirements that all participants of a television series have their names credited.

Assuming that this isn't the case, however, since that's the current bandwagon we seem to be jumping on, Partridge, Stiles, and Kirkland are out. Haffner, McAllister, Reede, and Bertram are still possible.

Three of these characters are meeting in Bertram's office in 6.02, when Patrick enters specifically in order to frighten Red John into action. Patrick believes one or more of them are Red John or his accomplices, or he would not have bothered. We know that Reede expects Bertam to be aware of Jane's progress on the Red John case, we know that McAllister has been following Jane around (watch 6.02 more carefully if you don't believe that) and none of them seem to worry about speaking plainly in front of each other. Either Red John is in that room, surrounded by accomplices, or all three suspects are accomplices.

Of the 7 suspects, Reede Smith is the only one in the FBI. If 6.01 focuses on Patridge, 6.02 focuses on Haffner, and 6.03 focuses on McAllister, given the pictures and trailer for this week's episode, 6.04 is going to focus on Reede Smith. We know that Patrick's plan at the end of Season 5 didn't work because Red John had an accomplice in the FBI. It's likely that person is Reede. Originally, I had hoped that Reede would die by Kirkland's hand in 6.04, eliminating both of them as suspects, and leaving Haffner, Bertram, and McAllister to vie for RJ. While that doesn't seem likely anymore, Reede Smith comes across, in the conference scene with McAllister and Bertram, to be a middle man at most, and if we go by that analysis, Bertram is a middle man at most as well, as he appears to take orders from Reede. If Red John were working for the FBI or operating with their knowledge and consent, this makes sense. Otherwise, Reede is the least likely of the four and Bertram the 2nd least likely WITH ONE POSSIBLE CAVEAT:

Looking back at the finale of Season 3, the assassin enters Bertram's room and scales down to Craig's room. Let's assume that Bertram is Red John and Craig is an accomplice. They would get conflicting locations on Hightower's actual room number, solve the issue by having the assassin check both. Otherwise, the assassin would just enter into the correct room. There's no need for subterfuge. Grace then tells Craig that Bertram is the mole and that's she's going to see Hightower, he tags along and lets Bertram/Red John know that he's going to kill Hightower. Bertram/Red John is at the food court, decides to leave and....passes on the cell phone to Timothy Carter, possibly an undercover bodyguard keeping an eye on Red John. Possible theory, not my main point, but if this happened then Bertram is no less valuable of a suspect than McAllister or Haffner. Moving right along...

McAllister is one of the few suspects who appears genuinely good-willed, and yet he is undeniably involved with something at the least, and Red John at the most, and he's keeping an eye on Patrick. That last fact implies that he's keeping tabs on Patrick FOR somebody else, not because he's Red John.

Haffner is my favorite suspect, unless Patridge is alive or the above mall scenario with Bertram actually went down. The best thing I can say about him is that there's nothing that seems to contradict him as a suspect. He actually fits the description we get of Jay Roth best, out of all the suspects. You can fake being a sucky whistler, but you can't fake being a good whistler. His demeanor is of somebody with many friends...he's certainly a likable guy most of the time, whereas Bertram or Partridge or Reede Smith can give off other vibes. He's well-spoken and good postured, and a patient person as evidenced by when Lisbon keeps postponing their lunch and he isn't flustered at all. He appears to deal well with conflict and adversity, but in actuality does not. Well, we don't know if he really doesn't, but Stiles, Reede, Kirkland, and Bertram all have scenes where they appear to momentarily lose control of their emotions, even if those scenes are brief and nondescript.

Cliff Notes:

Not Kirkland, Reede, Stiles

Probably not McAllister, or Bertram

Maybe Haffner

Hopefully Partridge.

I think it would be the best possible solution for Partridge to be Red John, and with so many people saying, "I think it was supposed to be Partridge, but the fans discovered it was going to be him so the writers changed it", I'm surprised more people aren't supporting Partridge by calling a double bluff on the part of the writers, pretending to kill Red John off or actually killing him off in order to produce the maximum thrill.

We're getting close! It's only a month from last Thursday away.


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Theory #6480 • By WalDerp
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Have you ever met anyone named WALDO? Would you ever name a kid Waldo?

Think about it -- not the comic book but just the name. Don't think of the Van Halen video for <em>Hot for Teacher</em> either, because that's taking it farther than I want to go with this. Just think of the type of person the word "Waldo" brings to mind. 

Now of the 7 (... 6 ... 5) suspect on the list, which one would you name WALDO? 

Bertram's kind of a Waldo, and -- back to the idea of the comic book -- is always just kind of there in the background. He doesn't really do anything. In fact, he does not really get involved or influence the plot much. He really prefers to stay out of the way. 

Now I'm not saying I know who Red John is. After all this time, Patrick Jane does not even know who he is. If he did, he would kill him. Immediately. He'd just walk right into the office and shoot him on the spot first chance he got. 

In Strawberries and Cream, Jane made sure Bertram was with him when he had his elaborate trap set to reveal the identity of Red John. He had a gun with him too, and Jane never carries a gun. And he used that gun to kill the man he thought was Red John. Right there, in public, in broad daylight. So you can be sure that if Jane knew Bertram was Red John, he'd shoot him right away. But you can't just shoot Waldo, unless you are sure he's Red John. 

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hey guys I just watched again episode 8 of season 2 His red Right Hand (the episode where Sam Bosco's team got shot by
Rebecca their secretary) and
I picked up an interesting clue regarding the identity of Red John. Towards the end of the episode when Rebecca is escorted
down the hallway after her interview with Jane we see a man in a sheriff uniform coming down from the
opposite direction. Rebecca sees that man and smiles to him. Then the man
discretely leaves poison on her hand as he passes her and Rebecca dies just a
few moments afterwards. Most likely this man was sheriff McAllister (in his sheriff outfit) and as for the smile
I think it is Rebecca trying to say to him: "I have accomplished my mission". Thanks for
reading and let
me know what you guys think 

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So guys Partridge is dead. And Kirkland is off the list too. So we are left with 5 suspects. Please stop posting far-fetched theories.

I think we all agree that Stiles is not RJ but he is somehow connected to him. I dont think RJ is a member of visualize, he is too smart to believe in Stiles. Haffner is a strong suspect however he appeared in season 4 and the clues have been pointing at him. But Rj is smart. Both red john and jane are playing a game and they both have planted fake clues. Obviously Jane knows more than he is letting to believe.

Smith is definitely not Rj. But could be his informant in the fbi.

Bertram is involved in the other plot and he could be rj. He has been on the show longer than all other suspects. He has friends in high places.

I like McAllister for rj. He appeared in first season. He is sneaky. The actor playing young rj looks like him.

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rossalind harker and dr millers description are the basis for 70% of these theories, bet they're tricks by RJ.

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CONFIRMED DEAD:http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/fall-tv/the-mentalist--closes-in-on-red-john---the-list-is-down-to-five-na...

I don't like to issue spoilers or reissue them, but I don't mind when other people do. Here, you can always bet on it that someone will. And since someone already reissued this spoiler here, I see no problem with beating a dead Partridge, this time. 

I Thought he was dead, and thought Partridge-alive theories were ludicrous. After reading many of them, I started to get swayed, thinking, Okay, maybe not ridiculous, but not likely; then, Okay, maybe not unlikely, but plausible; then, Okay, I give in, He's alive. I became convinced that he was alive and maybe even Red John -- fickle, gullible me. But I also have some really good conspiracy theorist to blame for this. 

Many expressed they were sick of Partridge theories. And those of us who held out for the remotest possibility of a Partridge theory were sick of you telling us how sick you were. The whole thing was just sick, sick, sick. 

Can we move on now?

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