I didn't look through the whole list to see if this has been put forth yet, but could Red John be a cabal of several of the remaining suspects? After this latest episode, I am very confused about the clique in law enforcement and whether they are complicit with Red John or combatting Red John.
I have to say that for right now all my chips are in with Ray Haffner, for several reasons.
1. He is played just creepy enough, but not outwardly repulsive like Kirkland is (was?) by the wonderfully eerie Reed Diamond. He couldn't have as many followers as he does without some level of charm.
2. RJ has to have some kind of "in" at the CBI. After all he was able to get to Rebecca both to recruit her and to kill her/have her killed. Also, it may explain how RJ knew about the bugs placed on the phones which he used to lure Lisbon to Partridge's demise.
3. We know RJ has some tie to Vizualize, the scientology-like cult, headed by Bret Stiles. It's too obvious to have Bret be the bad guy, besides he doesn't fit any of the descriptions of RJ himself. We know that Haffner is a current member, and we also know that Bret knew where Kristina Frye was being kept. Either Bret knew because he was doing it, or he knows because members of visualize tape their confessions and Stiles has access to this information. [Also, unexplained is how Van Pelt is tied to Visualize . . . she had a rather intense encounter with Stiles so I wonder what happened to that storyline].
4. Haffner has a rather intense affection for Lisbon which may explain why he didn't kill her.
5. He fits what we know about RJ "just under six feet tall, with short, straight hair, not muscular but not soft, with strong hands" - Rosalind Harker. Reed Diamond is a little over 6 feet but I don't think that's particularly problematic. And what poor Sophie tells us "he seems to have a case of acrophobia, and/or other phobias, is middle
aged, in good health, has no family, but many friends, is a great
speaker, has good posture, is an excellent whistler, possesses hints of
narcissism, and seems to be harboring something dark within himself"
The voice: I don't find the voice particularly problematic . . . I don't understand why someone couldn't disguise their voice or, in RJ's case have one of his minions do the dirty work. We can't really say at any rate that any of the RJ sightings -- Harker, when RJ "rescues" Jane, or when RJ ostensibly visits Sophie, are actually him and not a disciple. So who's to say he's not just a mastermind with others to be his public face?
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Hi all -- perhaps someone can help me out with this...
You know how one poster said Red John said "ThereZa can't speak right now" and pronounced the "s" as a "z"?
Well, I shared this little tidbit with Mrs_Obvious and she says she thinks that's how Bertram says Theresa's name.
Bertram? That lame-o? Well anything's possible -- what do you think, is that how he says her name?
WE HAVE BEEN SEDUCED INTO THINKING THAT RJ IS SOMEONE WITH THE WORLD AT HIS FINGERTIPS.
It would be an easy MISTAKE:
to confuse that RJ seeks power --- with thinking that RJ is someone in a position of power
It's easy to imagine RJ as a cult leader, rich playboy, CBI insider, etc. -- BUT the truth about killers like RJ is that they are often unremarkable and overlooked, and subsequently in deep need of power. Remember SJK Killer? A total nerd, seemingly harmless and pretending to help out. And real life BTK? He didn't fit the image at all. THAT'S the paradox. They want power but they are NOT going to look like they have any.
THIS OMITS everyone on the List of 7 Suspects [that was fake anyway], as well as any other obviously powerful or arrogant person that Jane has come into contact with.
A good question to ask: WHO DOESN'T HOLD an obvious powerful position, who has been dismissed or overlooked by CBI [though not entirely discounted] -- and who we've seen to be both forgettable AND yet someone who needs to be heard?
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After seeing episode 3 of season 6, where Thomas McAllister came out of several seasons' hibernation, I'm starting to think he could be the guy. Reasons why:
1) Bringing him out early in Season 6 like this puts him right back in the running. Why waste an episode reviving an old character for no reason?
2) Lorelei Martins told Patrick something to the effect that "You and Red John are just alike. I don't know why you didn't become best friends the moment you shook hands" -- Another poster reminded me of the scene where Patrick and McAllister play rock, paper, scissors and PJ wins every time. Get it, shaking hands -- that's how you play rock, paper, scissors. The two of them had a lot of fun in that scene, so in a way they were just alike. And the way PJ won every time showed there was some sort of mind meld going on there. Kind of a tiger, tiger thing with the symmetry, etc.
3) In season 6 episode 3, McAllister did seem to "like" Patrick in a way -- as Stiles said, Red John wants to be friends with PJ. Red John has rescued Patrick once before in an earlier season, so the rooftop rescue seems very Red John-ish.
4) Also recall McAllister's creepy woodland encounter with Grace, who now seems to be a sympathizer (at a minimum) to Visualize.
So -- all this adds up to McAllister being a very viable possibility. But far from a slam dunk.
There are only two possible people it could possibly be.
One is Bob Kirkland and the other is Brett Stiles.
These are the only two suspects that are under 6'. All the remaining suspects are over that height and the blind girl said that Red John was under 6'.
We know that it is not Sheriff McAlllister from the last episode because he is not afraid of heights and Red John is. Once we determine which one of these is or is not afraid of heights then we will know who Red John is. I have a tendency to believe it is Bob Kirkland because Jane said that RJ was a member of Stiles group (Red Barn) as a teenager which would make him about Kirkland's age. Stiles is in his 70's and too old.