Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I think the key to the Red John mystery was revealed in this episode. Kirkland mentions how both he and his twin brother were abused by his father. Jane remarks that Bob must have been the stronger of the two. If Bob was stronger than Michael I could only imagine how psychologically damaged he is. Bob says that his brother grew distant from him as he found someone, who he thinks was Red John, who understood him. I think that the person that he actually met was Brett Stiles and the Visualize cult. Visualize would require someone to distance themselves from their families. The visualize group would show the kind of love to a deeply damaged young man who was abused by his alcoholic mother. It also goes along with the clue that Red John's first kills were on the farm owned by Visualize.

If that theory doesn't hold true, the next best guess I have is that Red John is not one singular person but rather a network of people. This network is more than likely the "tiger, tiger" group. This would explain why so many people suspected of being or knowing something about Red John always drops the "tiger tiger" line when they die. If the organization covers things up for other members and is full of corrupt law enforcement officials then it would make sense as to why there are so many different suspects throughout the series and why no real headway has ever been made in the case. If this proves to be true I think that in the reveal episode this truth would be revealed and the member of the "tiger, tiger" club is the one who killed Jane's family, and then the rest if the series will be dedicated to exposing the rest of these members.

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Reed Smith ain't no Red John, but he is part of the corrupt law enforcement ring -- code name: Tyger, Tyger. (I'll maintain Blake's spelling since this is what we've been going on up till now)

It certainly looks like Bertram, McAllister, and Reed Smith were discussing matters related to this when they were having their little powwow in 6.2. The question is... (questions are...)

Is this also a RJ thing? If so, to what extent do those who are in the Tyger, Tyger ring know that they are collaborating with Red John? If not, then why does Red John quote the first stanza of Blake's poem to Jane when he rescues him in Red Sky at Night? 

There certainly are other elements one could add, connecting RJ to Tyger, Tyger. Perhaps, too many to list here (although I'm sure someone will eventually put that list together for us). But let's just name a couple of obvious people here: Brett Partridge (forensics); Todd Johnson (cop killer). 

Based on other details related to these two characters, it is hard to argue that Tyger, Tyger ring is unrelated to Red John (even though Kirkland mentioned to Smith that he was not certain that there was a connection, but he does not know all the details we know). So it would be very unlikely that, say, the Tyger, Tyger ring is trying to pin some of its murders on Red John. However, it does not mean that everyone in Tyger, Tyger is in on the Red John connection. Although some people clearly are aware of it. 

<strong>Plausible</strong> = <em>Not all Tyger Tyger ring members are RJ devotees (devotees pledge devotion and sacrifice to RJ)</em>
<strong>Unlikely</strong> = <em>All Tyger Tyger ring members are RJ devotees</em>

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Well, i have finished watching the last episode, se6ep4, then decided to share my thoughts with you.
So, let's start. 
Brett Patridge is dead, and so Bob does, he is also dead. Now, there are 5 suspects in the list: Bertram, Stiles, Sheriff, Ray Haffner and agent Smith.
I do not want to find RJ according to Harker's or Miller's words, because Patrick knows how RJ is foxy guy, that's why Patrick tries to find with his own clues. 
Now, "Tyger, Tyger" poem. Agent Smith knows what's that poem indicates, it means, Tyger Tyger organization could belong to RJ and agent Smith is a member of this organization. If it is so, then RJ could not be Bertram and Sheriff. Why? Because, when Bertram, Smith and Sheriff was talking in Bertram's office, after Patrick left the room, smith asked how much Jane knows about RJ and told to Bertram that to know how Jane is close is Bertram's duty. It means that, Bertram is also not Rj. In that case, Sheriff also did not say anything, if Sheriff is RJ, he could order to Bertram to know more, but he did not, so he is also not RJ.
Now, Patrick thinks that, RJ has a person in CBI and FBI, and I wanna tell to people who think that CBI RON is RJ are wrong, cos, RJ does not work like that. He has Bertram in CBI and no need to work in CBI for RJ, i think Bruno and his team are again misleading us. And this is also for Ray Haffner. If Bertram is an accomplice or helper of RJ, how Ray (if you think he is RJ) could work under bertram's guidance in CBI? maybe they are playing a role, you think, but I do not think RJ does such funny things....
So, now only Brett Stiles left. But, I do not say anything about him, i mean I do not say he is RJ. 
IMHO, as I told before in #5638 and #6280, Patrick has already known the RJ... 
I would like to say Bruno thanks for his high-level mind game....
any comments or mistake?

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Theory #6572 • By Mr_Redd
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Well, i have finished watching the last episode, se6ep4, then
decided to share my thoughts with you.

So,
let's start. 

Brett
Patridge is dead, and so Bob does, he is also dead. Now, there are 5 suspects
in the list: Bertram, Stiles, Sheriff, Ray Haffner and agent Smith.

I do
not want to find RJ according to Harker's or Miller's words, because Patrick
knows how RJ is foxy guy, that's why Patrick tries to find with his own clues. 

Now,
"Tyger, Tyger"
poem. Agent Smith knows what's that poem indicates, it means, Tyger Tyger
organization could belong to RJ and agent Smith is a member of this
organization. If it is so, then RJ could not be Bertram and Sheriff. Why?
Because, when Bertram, Smith and Sheriff was talking in Bertram's office, after
Patrick left the room, smith asked how much Jane knows about RJ and told to
Bertram that to know how Jane is close is Bertram's duty. It means that,
Bertram is also not Rj. In that case, Sheriff also did not say anything, if
Sheriff is RJ, he could order to Bertram to know more, but he did not, so he is
also not RJ.

Now,
Patrick thinks that, RJ has a person in CBI and FBI, and I wanna tell to people
who think that CBI RON is RJ are wrong, cos, RJ does not work like that. He has
Bertram in CBI and no need to work in CBI for RJ, i think Bruno and his team
are again misleading us. And this is also for Ray Haffner. If Bertram is an
accomplice or helper of RJ, how Ray (if you think he is RJ) could work under
bertram's guidance in CBI? maybe they are playing a role, you think, but I do
not think RJ does such funny things....

So,
now only Brett Stiles left. But, I do not say anything about him, i mean I do
not say he is RJ. 

IMHO,
as I told before in #5638 and #6280, Patrick has already known the RJ... 

I
would like to say Bruno thanks for his high-level mind game....

any
comments or mistake?

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I think it Walter Mashburn. Because he is very good looking. Seems like he can manipulate any woman. He has more money then he knows what to do with. He took a liking to Tereasa and slept with her. He never was uncomfortable with Jane in any way. he always seems like he loves games

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Theory #6569 • By Mentalist_Croat
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I HAVE SIMPLE IDEA TO FIND OUT WHO IS RED JOHN !


Someone who is skilled mentalist (for example Derren Brown; or better, someone who is anonymous) should interview Bruno Heller and try to find out who is Red John.

It is important that Bruno Heller doesnt know what is going on.

In that situation, skilled mentalist will use tricks and manipulation to Heller to reveal all about Red John mistery.


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The Mentalist 6x05 Promo "The Red Tattoo"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTiRnroxzM

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