Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I think Heller is messing this up big time. It's becoming as confusing and inconsistent as LOST.

First of all, we should have discovered Red John's identity at the end of last season, not 1/3 of the way through season 6. It reeks of "Whoops, I've left them guessing for too long... Better give it up while they're still watching!"

Secondly, to introduce this whole new Tyger Tyger conspiracy group THIS LATE IN THE GAME is desperate and insulting. Don't add more layers NOW, Bruno - just tie up the loose ends that have laid out for us over 5 years!

I think he's turning Red John into a red herring so he can keep his show going. I'm predicting a cop-out reveal, where RJ died months ago and now others are carrying on his work or some nonsense like that. Or that RJ was never one guy, but a group of people blah blah blah, as if there are that many people in the word who all want to become serial killers and join a serial killer group. Crikey.

This whole Kirkland thing for me was the last straw. He was hunting RJ the whole time? Please. Then why didn't he ask Lennon for RJ's identity before he killed him? So dumb. Oh, wait! It was his twin! Now he has a freaking TWIN??? Come on! That is all.

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SPOILER ALERT!
Some thoughts on last night's episode and the hunt for Red John.
Bob Kirkland hunting Red John himself was a plot point many of us saw coming and I was pleased with the way they did it.  I think Jane was pretty stupid to allow Kirkland to leave without telling him [Jane] anything as he would surely have expected Red John to have him killed. However we still don't know if Red John gave the order or whether Reede Smith was acting in the interests of the newly discovered "Tyger Tyger Conspiracy" which Kirkland was apparently investigating.
With regards to the Conspiracy it appears to cover most, if not all, aspects of California Law Enforcement and has members ranging from the FBI to the DOC (and also likely CBI and the Sheriff's Dept if we include Partridge, Bertram and McAllister in it as well)  The exchange between Smith and Bertram in 6x02 can now be taken as Smith's concern that Jane has information on the Conspiracy, likely due to the death of Brett Partridge.
In terms of a Red John connection to the conspiracy we can infer that Red John is likely a part of it, but the fact that he IS Red John is likely unknown to most of the others.  In fact Red John could have easily been one of the founding members.
Overall, I think that Ray Haffner is now (and for me he has been for  a while) the Prime Suspect in the hunt for Red John.  Looking at everything we have found out I can't see it being anybody else, apart from Thomas McAllister and I think it turning out to be him would be on a par with the old Murder Mystery cliche of "the butler did it" seeing as he appeared in one episode nearly SIX years ago and the writers had no way of knowing whether Xander Berkeley would even want to come back to the show.
Also; Much Props to Baki Kaan Sert for the discovery of the similarities between Red John's and Ray Haffner's walks, which to me simply adds more credence to Ray Haffner being Red John.  The GIFS showing this are here: http://i.imgflip.com/4a7bq.gif and http://i.imgflip.com/4a7e2.gif

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The first thing; there is no Red John.
Red John is not a person, Red john is a sect. So that jane is wasting his own time.
But Jane has to find The Creator(Leader).
Suspect list is getting decreasing... Obviously I am pretty sure that Creator is Bred Stiles.
Stiles is leader but He has never killed someone we know.
Remember from S6E4 Bob Kirkland said "my brother has quited to using alcohol suddenly"
Leaving to using alcohol is very hard to do everyone knows :) But Bred stiles can hypnotize him easly.
(Forgive me İf I made a english grammer mistake)

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Theory #6657 • By exa
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red john wanted to cut off janes fingers and who else likes doing that bob kirkland

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I'm baffled that anyone still thinks Red John is on the list, the people on the list are murky and probably members of the Thyger-conspiracy but none of them are Red John.

All the usual suspects are falling dead like flies and people in here are still guessing it is the next most usual suspect.

The whole "Mentalist-surprise-twist" thing at the end of episodes is gone with this list so obviously it has nothing to do with Red John.

Who's the spider in the net, controlling everything without making any suspicion? Who are able to control all these men of power? Usually a woman... and fits well with "his" weird high-pitched voice.

This guy exposes Red John in the end with saying "You are Red John" and just gets a diabolical smile back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P6snejh8DRE#t=137



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Just one question:

If Kirkland wants to catch Red John plus investigate the intern Tyger Tyger Mafia what shall we think about Bertram?

Scene 1 : The "Can we trust anyone" scene where Kirkland appears after Bertram spoke to Lisbon.
This one leads me to the conclusion that they were working together in order to actually catch the "Tygers" and since they dont know who is part of the club they dont know who they can trust.

Scene 2 : The little meeting with Tom, Bertram and Smith. Smith asking " how much does jane know" , bertram answering " that is the question" on wich smith replies " its your job to know"
This one makes me believe Bertram is part of the conspiracy.

I dont know what to make of it, if you have any thoughts please share them.

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