Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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for me, red john is more interesting/intriguing as a character when he's this 'mysterious loner serial killer with a hidden agenda' and unknown motivations. tying him into a law enforcement conspiracy 'kills' a lot of that fun for me. just like the whole 'patrick jane is red john' theory feels like a clever but over-done plot device, i'm getting a bit burnt out on government conspiracies.

so far, i've seen 'red john works for the tyger, tyger group' theories, 'red john is the tyger tyger group' theories, and 'red john and the tyger tyger group hate each other' theories.

perhaps the 'tyger tyger' group exists to cover red john's tracks. NOT because they work for him, but because they are trying to catch him, and failing. they have been trying for a really long time. and it would probably be really, really embarrassing for a law enforcement organization, and the public perception of law enforcement, to NOT reel in a serial killer after so long.

from the serial killer's point of view, this would bother his 'ego,' causing him to be even more brash and 'theatrical.' in order to get noticed and to receive proper attribution for his crimes, he may develop more of a 'calling card' or style, such as the smiley face or the 'tyger tyger' phrase. law enforcement agents who are part of the conspiracy would later 'adopt' the phrase 'tyger tyger' as a code that whatever action they are currently taking covers up a red john related crime. if the serial killer actually is a member of law enforcement, that is a 'twist' that also enables the killer to stay a step ahead of the authorities. he is part of law enforcement, but a killer, which mirrors the duality explored in blake's poem.

under this reasoning, you'd need a conspiracy of law enforcement agents who:

1. hide evidence of red john crimes to reduce public hysteria
2. break the law and procedure to try to kill/capture red john
3. cover the evidence of other officials and agents breaking laws and procedures when attempts to subdue red john fail
4. silence witnesses
5. exist on multiple levels of law enforcement or government agencies

people have commented on how odd the red john timeline is. he appears (we think) at the red barn, then goes dormant for 10 years, before becoming more 'public.' 

but a novice serial killer would probably be more cautious. he may 'hunt' victims that are not going to be missed. and these murders would be relatively 'easier' to cover up in the news, than the later killings. some would probably go unnoticed by themselves. however, as he becomes more brazen, the serial killer would then be less 'discriminant' in terms of his victims, picking increasingly visible targets, and culminating in the murder of a certain psychic's family after that psychic mentioned him on a talk show. that would be the ultimate way to get noticed, and to spite any law enforcement agency's attempts to cover up his handiwork. 

the affinity red john feels for jane could be genuine gratitude for jane indirectly making him so popular.

looking at the suspects from the angle of ego gratification:

1. bertram wants to be the bureau's center of attention, and is happy to do interviews
2. haffner wants recognition for service, and is happy to have that need gratified by money at a higher paying job
3. stiles is the head of a religious cult or sect and wants complete control and adulation
4. smith may not have power or control, but has been depicted venting his anger openly on both colleagues and suspects. in effect, abusing his power as an fbi agent

so once again playing devil's advocate, and expounding on an earlier theory, mcallister (and to a certain extent, smith) stand out as the 2 suspects who don't seem to need their egos stroked on a daily basis.

when lisbon and jane were involved in the napa investigation of episode 3, mcallister teased them, and even thanked them for their help, rather than feeling threatened. he seems like the only suspect who isn't desperate for attention. 

the one exception to that portrayal was mcallister's pursuit of van pelt in season one. it conveyed a sense of being predatory, rapist, and obsessive. he may not have known she was a cop, but he knew cbi was in town. and he still tried to get her in his car.

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Theory #6817 • By sact66
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Kirkland and Jane are brothers. When Kirkland is getting ready to torture the pedophile with a blow torch he was rolling his fingers (like with Pakinsons disease) just as Jane was when he was later tied up by Kirkland. They are half brothers, brothers from another mother! It is not coincidence that they both do this as the camera shot and set up appear intentional. Red John is their father. He stole the people that mattered most from each of them.

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Theory #6815 • By Preddy
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After 6 x 04
Red Jhon is the name of the  secret cospiracy between CBI,FBI and police ... Red Jhon should be their tag.
" Tiger,Tiger " is their secret acces code and we all know that came from "Red Jhon" when he saved P.Jane .
Other informations come from the final dialogue when Bob talks about his brother ..
SuSpects : Gale Bertrame , Reede Smith , Thomas Mcallister ...

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 I'm still holding out for it to be Kristina Frye....

The list is retarded:
Bertram - Rosalind Harker would have said he's this huge bald dude.
Reede Smith - RH would have said he's fat.
Stiles - RH would have said he's old and wrinkly.
McCallister doesn't feel like he would fit the description and he was only in one episode.

Only ones that fit are:
Haffner - Boring.
Partridge - He's creepy and all and would fit, but too obvious.
Kirkland - I was hoping he was Lorili and her sister's father, but either way, why kill Lennon? Only to cast him as suspect by the writers.

Anything with pigeons is retarded. Also, why is RJ a criminal mastermind. He killed a few women (big man!) with a box cutter. I don't think this qualifies he as a criminal mastermind. Then the writers just keep having him do anything they want without making any sense. If he can hack into any system and be anywhere, why isn't he releasing secrets of snooping government agencies. Seriously, he killed a few women. That's it.

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Hello kids! I'm a long time reader and first time writer, I hope you'll enjoy my theory!

I think that Ray Haffner is Red John but I'll start with excluding the other suspects besides him and then I'll get to why I think Haffner Is Red John!

Reede Smith:
As
we all know in S04E24 Red John told Jane that he has a friend in the
FBI, most likely somebody high up. That friend is Reede Smith, and that
tyger tyger thing at the end of E04 proves this so I think that excludes
him from the list, he obivously is one of RJ's followers.

Gale Bertram:
Sure
he recited a poem by William Blake and is acting all shady and stuff in
front of Jane now, but it's only because he is trying to get Jane to
talk about how much he knows about Red John but he fails repeatedly.
That meeting with Bertram, Smith and McAllister confirms it. Smith asked
Bertram: "Exactly how much does Jane know?" and "It's your job to know
the answer" with a tone you probably wouldn't take with Red John. You
could see on his face that he that he didn't seem too comfortable. So I
think that excludes Bertram from the list. I think he is a follower
though.

Bret Stiles:
In 1988 Red John was a kid, Stiles was 45
years old that year. Also I don't think he would have the time to have a
duplicitous personality as busy as he is. I think he knows who Red John
is and is very careful with that information. Also I think he might be
Red John's father, in this case Ray Haffner which would kinda make sense
as he easily could provide much money for him. And we know that Red
John has much money.

Sherrif Thomas McAllister:
I'm not sure
what the deal is with this guy since we don't know much about him
besides that he doesn't fit Harker's description. He may be a follower,
he may not be.

Why is Ray Haffner Red John?
He fits the
description perfectly, he tried to turn Lisbon for another job and we
know that turning people is one of Red John's things. He was a kid in
1988, about the same year he joined visualize. He always calls Lisbon by
her first name "Theresa", as do Red John. In E02 he said that he likes
Lisbon and this is probably why he spared her in the season premiere. I
mentioned above that Stiles may be Haffner's father which would make
alot of sense with all the Red John being rich and all since he's got a
limo and paid that lady cash upfront to draw the smiley face with that
airplane in the season 1 finale. And he also walks just like Red John: http://i.imgflip.com/4a7bq.gif http://i.imgflip.com/4a7e2.gif

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This is not a Rj theory so there's no suspect, BUT...
Something just hit me and I haven't seen anyone posting about it so I felt it's up to me to bring it up. 
I appreciate your comments and views.

Like we all know, Heller said that something in the ending of S06E01 was important.
People have argued about whether it is the 666, pidgeons or the smiley face.

How about what Partridge says?
Or actually not what he says, but who he says it to!

If Tyger Tyger is the password of a secret organisation, choosing those words as your last seems rather stupid if the person you're talking to isn't involved in the organisation (of course it can be simple mumbling, but why would Heller chose those words for that?)

Now, what's interesting is that Lisbon actually seems to respond to the words, and she's clearly confused and thinking about what to do next. She can of course be confused for several reasons, but I think she's somehow involved in the Tyger Tyger organisation, whether it's connected to Red John or not.

Watch this if you don't remember the scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4mhDdZPD-o

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Theory #6809 • By Reza8989
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Lisbon was yanked off-screen by Red John at the end of Episode 1 (S-6) (imagine the force necessary for doing that) and Bruno Heller announced there was a hint at the end part of Episode 1. In the last part of the next episode, it shows Ray Haffner work out with heavy dumbbells. I guess that was the hint.

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