Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I dont believe that red john is ray haffner. In the episode where teresa lisbon refuses to join haffner's private firm, haffner asks her if it is because of Jane. Haffner tells lisbon that when jane finishes catching red john, Jane is going to leave the firm. Haffner gives this as incentive for lisbon to join his company. Now why would haffner say this if he were red JOHN?

Also R E D J O H N has 7 letters. Jane also compiles a list of 7 names (just an interesting thought =) )Honestly I dont think that red john is any of the 7 guys..

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It is Bob Kirkland, but not Bob Kirkland. His brother is Red John.. That is why he keeps asking people if they recognize him. Because his brother is a twin. 

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List is down to 5. After shooting, Reede Smith didn't draw any smilie. Not RJ's MO. So list is down to 4?. McAllister proved himself having no acrophobia. So list now down to 3?. in Episode 2 or 3, Bertram, Reede Smith and McAllister sits in a Room and asks each other "The Question is, How much does he(jane)know". This gives a hint that they all share the same Status in relation with RJ. If one of them is not RJ, none of them is. List is now down to 2. Ray Haffner or Brett Stiles. Yet to see Stiles in this Season, But it would be a cliché if BS is RJ.


Murder can be a business. And Ray Haffner is the one who started his own Agency. He Likes Lisbon. And RJ did not kill her. Could be him. At least he has handsome face, that misdirects suspicion. And tall enough  to fit to silhouette of RJ's Visualizations in Past. 

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D** it. Rob Kirkland is playing this very well into deceiving everybody. I dont think Haffner would be Red John. It doesn't describe the profile from the description that was described in a previous episode, Red John was described as a Narcissist. Haffner appears to be a ESFP personality type which describes why he is attracted to Lisbon. I think a serial killer as Red John would have to an introvert. Rob Kirkland is so so good at not letting emotions get to him. If i was told to get out of the Van i would be frighten not knowing what will happen next. Rob Kirkland was completely calm as if he know what was going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if he was wearing a vest. I know my Theory may sound weak between Haffner being a ESFP and LIsbon a ISFJ, but extraverts are not likely to be serial killers. Somebody who is withdrawn from society and has hidden agendas are the enemy.

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Someone mentioned a while ago that Brett Partridge might have had a twin brother. This was their explanation for two things. 1) How Brett could fake his own death, as his twin would have near matching DNA, finger prints, etc, as him. 2) How the producer of the show could say "Partridge" was dead and not be lying.

The whole twin thing fits in with the idea of symmetry throughout the show (Tyger Tyger). In William Blake's painting Brace of Partridge there are two birds, both mirror images of each other.

Perhaps Red John has some sort of fascination with twins. Robert and Michael Kirkland, whose lives he ruined. Lorelei Martins and her twin sister Miranda.

His obsession with this "symmetry" could be because he is a twin himself.

Just a theory.

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OK, let me get this straight first. My first choice is McAllister, as I've posted here before. And the chance of Smith being the Red John is this thin. And no, this has nothing to do with his appearance or attitude. This is simply a matter of good storytelling. You don't run 5 seasons worth of a manhunt and then introduce the real bad guy in just one episode in season 5. Nope, that's a cop-out writing.
On the other hand, people gloss Smith over way too easily. As this season shows, he's actually pretty ruthless, smart, and capable of extreme violence. Think of Saul Goodman--dude sleazes around a lot, but damn isn't he good at what he does. Smith is just like that. Kudos to Drew Powell for that scene when he fakes obliviousness to Kirkland. That's a stellar acting right there. 

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Hello mentalist maniacs... Here is my theory with supporting evidence.
First it's not seven people, red john is to smart, makes no mistakes and has had Patrick trailing him way to hard to be more than one person, people make mistakes and seven would make mistakes. Now that we know of this secret society to cover up things we all think tyga tyga is something red john uses. Hold up. This secret society is actually confusing all of us, Bertrum wants red john...just as bad as Patrick...here is my main theory.

Patricks family was truly killed by The Tyga Tyga group, faked to make it look like red john so that Patrick would join CBI in the hunt. Once Patrick finds red john the secret society finds him. Because red john knows about the society that's why they want him dead and want to use Patrick to find him. Because of the farm, red John killed visualize members at the farm, and they have yet to catch him. The reason this works is 1. The only person Alive that we 100% know saw red john is the blind lady, she described him as one, not one to mingle or stay or have friends. Patrick says, to the homeland security dude "no one knows my list" this is the truth, he is using the fake like to flush out the secret society. Then comes in why red john whispered tyga tyga - it was a warning to Patrick saying that he is being used.

This may seem far fetched but Patrick is to smart, he would never tell his real red john list because to many people have a desire for him to be dead. Patrick is holding his shorter list closer. There is no way it is the group, they are to messy. Patrick is trying to catch red John but we will find red john was leading Patrick to catch the real killers.

To sum it up - the secret society is actually hunting red john, using Patrick. They want red john caught because of his actions at the farm and visualize. To myself the twist must be big, I think we will find red john and Patrick working together in the end episodes

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