To all the people pointing out that the actor that plays Kirkland will be in episode 8.... has anyone considered he could purely be there is flashback scenes?

If it is the big reveal episode that many suspect, there will need to be flashbacks to tie up many of the loose ends.

I also personally suspect Haffner on list, primarily because I don't trust him and his relationship with Lisbon.

Off list I go for Mashburn, for exactly the same reasons.

Ray Raffner is Red John because he is precise in everything he does, including his forelock.

Anyone else think Dr Roy Carmen, the CBI psychologist from way back has some significance?

Just look at the name alone. ROY CARMEN. He is a psychologist, and he counselled both Jane and Lisbon after the shooting in 2009. Think he was in two episodes only?

But the name......

Carmen Lee

Roy Tagliaferro

Could be why 'Jane' reacts like he does when he hears the name Carmen Lee.....

He thinks, psychologist. He thinks Dr Roy Carmen - blast from the past, way back to the beginning almost 2009.

Could be a red herring and simply an interesting co-incidence, but maybe not.

Here is a quote from one of Heller's interview:  Question is in bold.  My comments are in italicized.  

In the first season I thought Red John was just a serial killer. But he’s evolved to be more of a Moriarty-type villain with this web of other people under him and lots of money. Can you give me your sense of how you see the character? 
The character is consistent in the sense that he has grown with time. He’s a bit like anyone who’s very successful at what they do, this superstructure grows up around you. Over time, he’s evolved as you say, from a serial killer to something more than that. I hate to use this analogy, and it may be an inaccurate one, but it’s like an actor. You start out by saying lines, then as you move up the ladder you start to think you’re more than a simple human being. Power attracts power and this is how great criminal psychopaths get power. 

There is only one that has grown with the show ... Bret Partridge.  He was there in the first episode, somewhat cocky but timid.  But in last's season's finale he is more in charge.  With that being said Heller said in another interview:

For you, as a writer, was it ever going to be someone else first?
No. Because like I say, as convoluted and as elaborate as the plotting might appear, you have to know exactly what you’re doing way before you do it. So things might seem mysterious or too complicated to work out what the hell is going on, but as these episodes unfold, the story will unfold itself in a clean and clear fashion. It was very important that Partridge die at this point in the story. It’s not just — he didn’t just kill him as an act-out.

So what is the reason that Bret is dead? I think it is for the audience to remove him from our list.  He isn't off mine. 

Well , first of all , i am very disappointed with the new episode and even with the whole season 6 so far  . And here is why :

1.I know it's nothing revealed yet , but it would suck so fucking hard if Red John are several persons and not a SINGLE character (as we all wanted him to be) .

2.Tiger Tiger organization ? you must be fuckin kidding me Heller. Red John CAN NOT BE in a group with these idiots and clowns . They killed this arch . It was supposed to be about RJ and Patrick Jane , not about some corrupted law clowns . Was it so hard to keep it simply between Jane and RJ? About Jane's revenge , about all the clues that we found in the previous seasons and now they seem so useless . What is Reede Smith doing on this list ? When he doesn't even fit in the god damn description of Harker . Or McAllister ? We saw him just one time in 5 seasons and now he is on the list . The list makes no sense .

3. Before season 4, they told us that RJ apperaed before . Then what are Ray , Bob and Smith doing in this list ? Again nonsense .

4.There is no need to kill the suspects from the list . What's the point ? Why was Partridge killed ? or Heller thinks it's more intriguing ? I would say it's more intriguing with 7 names , not 5 . Never liked the ideea of eliminating suspects.

5. Heller said we will be disappointed when RJ will be revelead . Well i guess he is doing a great job . Tyger Tyger organization lol .

The only viable suspect seems to be Haffner , as he fits the description of Harker and most of the clues . But again , Haffner won't be a perfect Red John .

Just click green and comment if you think Heller is ruining our show !