Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Coffee. There's something about the coffee (or maybe I just need coffee). Seriously, though, when Kirkland shows up to meet with Smith, he brings three different coffee choices. This signifies a couple things, one of them being that Kirkland is "prepared." In this case, he's come prepared for variations in coffee choice, but I believe it foreshadows his "preparedness" with the Red John case. We've seen the man obsessed to find Red John several times. He's smart, and he's prepared for different outcomes. There's no way that the Kirkland we've seen depicted dies without having a "fail-safe" of sorts. His death or something he leaves behind will prove invaluable to Jane's investigation. (I still maintain that there's something strange about the "pigeon person" beside Jane and Lisbon while they're drinking coffee in 6x02!) Coffee!  I, like others, find Van Pelt's behavior odd, always have. She's always been a bit weak, except for when she shot her fiance (perhaps to prove to Red John that she is not weak?) I think, from the beginning, she's been set up as an informant of sorts. She's part of it somehow. She has always found Jane's "gift" intriguing; she also has computer skills. Lisbon also first told Van Pelt about Jane's 7 suspects. She's also the one that told Lisbon where to go to find Patridge, where Lisbon was ultimately attacked. And, I've never seen Van Pelt drink coffee, and that makes her suspicious to me. Van Pelt is the CBI insider, mark my words. With this last episode, I finally feel like we know more than Jane. We were given inside information in reference to "Tyger Tyger," which turns out to be a "password" of sorts, part of an insider coverup that involves multiple law enforcement agencies. So, when people are dying and "Tyger Tyger" is on their lips, it can only mean a couple things 1.) They feel betrayed and are offering a clue toward solving the greater mystery of Red John or 2.) It's offered as a response to something they've done, a sacrifice, or contribution toward protecting someone in authority. What makes this interesting is that we know some of the implications and significance of "Tyger, Tyger," but Jane and Lisbon do not. Knowing the implications, though, also gives us insight into Jane's positionality, where now, he appears to be more of a "pawn" than we've been lead to believe. Interesting development indeed! It's almost as if now we know that Jane and Lisbon and others have been moved around the chessboard by a master chess player. Jane and Lisbon are being used toward some endgame, but what? It's a power struggle, between two people, I think: But it's not Red John and Jane. It's between Red John and someone who believes s/he's his equal, someone who has great skills of manipulation and charisma. Red John hates competition, remember? He's let Jane live and Lisbon live; they're not the competition he fears. In fact, I'm pretty sure he feels confident that he can manipulate them any way he wants, just the way he has been... Only time will tell... I'm off to get some coffee!

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Hey, These are few hints that made me think that Ray Haf. may be RJ:

I couldn't notice some Things in these scene that may say Ray is indeed RJ ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPQ0QVl9qkU

-First he notices the low security in that hospital, Maybe cuz he's an ex-cbi or maybe cuz he's a serial killer lol.
-then in the dream Teresa had, he was the one that cut her throat the other suspect seemed to be just there to clean up.
-Now
It's known that RJ doesn't like to be criticized ; notice when Lisbon
said that " RJ isn't not so though ..." Ray Looks down left, and that is
said to mean that he's reflecting on inner feelings or remembering
something (either angry or remembering that night) and just after that
he come's up with an upset face just for a second.
-later on he says "I like you teresa I really do" and i think that's the reason why RJ didn't kill her that night.
-to
sum up he starts whisteling, i don't think that after this situation
and conversation anyone would go away whisteling, it doesn't fit, even
if it's a habit. this has to be a sign from him to her.
 
-A part
of this clip Ray Seem to be a very nice guy and has self-confidence
he's maybe the nicest guy In the list ( too good to be true ?)
-He
left CBI and Made his own firm (the only one of the suspects that is
independant) , do u really believe it's because of the salary.
I
think that it's to get rid of suspicion and cuz he doesn't need to be an
inside anymore, after all there's an inside organisation 'tyger-tyger',
it can get him all the informations he needs !
-When teresa was suspended he became Jane's boss, I guess it's not a coincidence , he needed to get closer to him.
-he's
an (ex?) visualise, When lisbon asked him if he was ever sent to work
in Elliston farm in 1988, he takes the question personnaly and manages
not to answer it.
ah and One last thing ... Ray=Roy ?

B.
Heller Said, after knowing RJ we woul'd be disappointed,  will that be
cuz it was so obvious or  cuz it would be a Bad surprise (Rigsby ? the
most unexpected ?). events of this series are not easy to expect ...
after all RJ could be anyone or even an organisation... they're all
suspicious !

Here you go I just had to write this down !

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Okay here I'm gonna give my two cents worth. Obviously it's just a theory.

Anyone else find it weird about the whole thing behind Partridge's death? They haven't even
shown the body or validated that it's him through an autopsy. We haven't seen it. And it is implied that neither Jane or Lisbon has seen the body since then too. For all we
know, they were just told that they found his ID beside a mutilated body. And Jane was stupid enough to wipe the blood off her face before they could've used it to identify whether it was really Partridge.
If there is a "tyger tyger" organization within the ranks of police and agents, it
would've been so easy to cover up this ruse because it was Red John's plan. I still think Partridge is
Red John. Heller hasn't come out and said that Partridge is officially
out of the running. He just said that it was Red John's decision to kill
Partridge. And that there's a good reason for it. If Partridge IS Red
John of course there's a good reason for him to seem like he was
"killed" to cause a diversion in Jane's plans. And most importantly for us to feel like he's out of the running just for that added suspense for the final revelation. And if you think about it, all the clues still lead to him: Harker and Sophie's physical and behavioral descriptions of him (him being a middle aged man which eliminates Bertram, Stiles and McAllister effectively), the creators saying we've seen him in the show before season 4 (hence eliminating Reede and Kirkland.)

I do have a nagging feeling that Red John is related to Bret Stiles. Like maybe he's an illegitimate son (would explain his messed up psychopathic nature if he did grow up with a single, perhaps alcoholic mother) who found his Dad after years, maybe when he was just starting to kill people in his teens (hence the Barn) who took him into his ranks (Visualize) and taught him the necessary skills for brainwashing. That would explain why Stiles may know so much about Red John but refuses to reveal anything, because it's his son. Maybe Bret Partridge was really called Bret Stiles Junior but because his Dad was never around growing up, he took up a different moniker through that anger not be associated with him at that time. A moniker in the name of the painting (A brace of Partridge) of his favourite Poet - Edward Blake, who also wrote "tyger tyger" whilst still keeping the first name Bret. Lol. What are the chances? Oh well, one can speculate.

What do you all think?

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Theory #6926 • By ChoIsRedJohn
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Okay, It can't be Bertram. This is because he didn't recognize Kirkland when he allowed him to work on the red john case.. 
It can't be Reede Smith because he didn't even react to 'tiger tiger'. And he seems too young.

This leaves Mccallistar and Haffner...
Both are good whistlers Both are around 44, But we know McCallistar is afraid of pigeons as we saw in episode 3 at the end. I believed Haffner is Red John but it seems too obvious..Calling Lisbon by her first name etc. Next episode were going to find out why Haffner is not Red John just by looking at the promo.

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Hey, These are few hints why I think that Ray Haf. may be RJ:

I couldn't notice some Things in these scene that may say Ray is indeed RJ ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-716hnLar_g

-First he notices the low security in that hospital, Maybe cuz he's an ex-cbi or maybe cuz he's a serial killer lol.
-then in the dream Teresa had, he was the one that cut her throat the other suspect seemed to be just there to clean up.
-Now It's known that RJ doesn't like to be criticized ; notice when Lisbon said that " RJ isn't not so though ..." Ray Looks down left, and that is said to mean that he's reflecting on inner feelings or remembering something (either angry or remembering that night) and just after that he come's up with an upset face just for a second.
-later on he says "I like you teresa I really do" and i think that's the reason why RJ didn't kill her that night.
-to sum up he starts whisteling, i don't think that after this situation and conversation anyone would go away whisteling, it doesn't fit, even if it's a habit. this has to be a sign from him to her.
 
-A part of this clip Ray Seem to be a very nice guy and has self-confidence he's maybe the nicest guy In the list ( too good to be true ?)
-He left CBI and Made his own firm (the only one of the suspects that is independant) , do u really believe it's because of the salary.
I think that it's to get rid of suspicion and cuz he doesn't need to be an inside anymore, after all there's an inside organisation 'tyger-tyger', it can get him all the informations he needs !
-When teresa was suspended he became Jane's boss, I guess it's not a coincidence , he needed to get closer to him.
-he's an (ex?) visualise, When lisbon asked him if he was ever sent to work in Elliston farm in 1988, he takes the question personnaly and manages not to answer it.
ah and One last thing ... Ray=Roy ?

B. Heller Said, after knowing RJ we woul'd be disappointed,  will that be cuz it was so obvious or  cuz it would be a Bad surprise (Rigsby ? the most unexpected ?). events of this series are not easy to expect ... after all RJ could be anyone or even an organisation... they're all suspicious !

Here you go I just had to write this down !

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Theory #6923 • By RayKK
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I have forget someting in the last post, she have the same coffee of Kirkland when he gives one to Reede Smith
I am going to edit my post. Lisbon is not RJ but i think she....

Is hypnotised by Red John ! 
for explain this scene 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmowHWnT2_A When she puts the handcuff the scene is cut, maybe Kirkland hypnotised her.

This explain why she is immobile when Marylin say to go.


Sorry for my english

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Theory #6922 • By Lionel
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I am going to edit my post. Lisbon is not RJ but i think she....

Is hypnotised by Red John ! 
for explain this scene 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmowHWnT2_A When she puts the handcuff the scene is cut, maybe Kirkland hypnotised her.

This explain why she is immobile when Marylin say to go.


Sorry for my english

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