Ok guys listen up , I'm going to make an extremely LOONG theory Discussing every possible clue we have until today , one by one and you should definitely read this because its not some "Van pelt Is rj Kind of bull haha" first im going to be using the major clues we have on red john..afterwards im going to be using some of that proof to remove suspects after that im going to post every possible thing we can benefit from bruno hellers Interviews.. alright so let me begin!
What do we know about Red john??
We have Sophie millers description , :-- "Good health", "Good posture" ,"self possessed" , "Excellent whistler" , "Phobia issues" , "something Dark about his makeup"
We have Rosalind harkens description,:- Average built, Just under six feet tall , soft but strong hands..
We also know Red john is charismatic and has many many people following him , we know hes not a loser hiding out in his moms basement he is very organised and comes from money.. we can tell from the time that Red john got patrick in the limo , we can also tell Red john is a male so please no more van pelt theories its driving me nuts...
Now something i established by myself (could be over thinking) , is that Something about him made her feel uncomfortable.. she did say she felt he has a narcissistic personality and has a dark emotional make up.. so red john might be charismatic and good looking or whatever but theres a huge possibility he comes up as a creep infront of people who can read others...
Now starting from the list let me start by Eliminating the first 2 suspects.. Partridge and Kirkland..
Now i'm not saying hes definately dead even though the actor jack plotnick said he was gone off the show for good and he doesn't appear in any more episodes in season 6 , he could be alive and bruno could be messing with us but that wont be a good reveal it would just be very disappointing in my opinion , Now Kirkland is definitely dead for sure and im going to eliminate the "His twin brother is red john theory" , when Bob/Michael killed lennon in the hospital he said:- "Do you recognise me.. have you seen me before?? when he says no , Bob says .. Thank god.. then kills him and says im a friend and if im ever in your position i hope someone does the same for me, why on earth would bob kill a suspect that knows red john. unless it was michael working for Red john.. but since lennon didnt recognize him its safe to presume he isn't red john but merely a disciple ,, ,... let me move on
so 2 down 5 to go , let me put these 5 in separate groups,,
Tyger tyger:-
gale bertram.
Reede Smith
Sherrif thomas mcallister
Visualize:-
Bret stiles
Raymond haffner
We know stiles owns visualize and has a direct connection with red john , we also know haffner works there and fits the description.. but let me go into more detail.. Bruno heller said that figuring out the Tyger tyger Organization will go a long way in finding out who red john is, does that mean hes definately in that organization??? Definitely not i mean it is possible i just think it would be rather dissapointing because the tyger tyger group seems like a bunch of little kids running around , they could be protecting red john they could be after him for some personal vendetta the possibilities are endless for Bruno Heck they could be in competition with visualize , they could be in co operation with visualize But Lets think this through very carefuly.. IF red john was infact in tyger tyger , then that means he would have also been @ elliston farm meaning hes in tyger tyger and visualize .. this could mean two things:- Hes a spy for visualize if they are in competition.... or Hes in both Since they are working together , In my opinion From just intuition is that Tyger tyger is after red john and not covering him up.. but red john could be a member of tyger tyger just to mess with them , in this case i think it could be mcallister for the many reasons of him saving jane , he isnt as dumb as he looks , but like i said i doubt hes a member of this so called tyger tyger , but if he was he could be mcallister.. but i have a whole theory about how mcallister is a rapist (odd as it sounds i have a good explanation for this) , when he crept up on van pelt and tried subduing her is one thing , the rest i just think He is definitely hiding something i can tell but what it is? i dont know..
Anyways so if red john is not a member of Tyger tyger lets cross out Bertram , smith , mcallister I strongly believe none of them are red john
And now we have 2 people left , both are in visualize one has a deep connection with bret stiles , (Stiles knows who red john is ) , now who would stiles know out of those 4:? Logically it would be haffner , unless theres a major twist in events or something .. ( Doubt it ) , Now why am i not fitting it in my head that stiles is red john? IF stiles was red john i would break my laptop in half and shit all over it because It doesn't fit in any way possible! except for the money and charisma part , Age doesn't fit , His actions dont fit! why would he let lorlei escape out of prison to help jane! , i seriously doubt hes red john but he does know red john personally ! anyways any of these 5 characters turning out to be red john is kind of a let down... but haffner is infact the best candidate to be red john amongst the five suspects.. is raymond haffner , Since We don't know much about any of the suspects other than what they are letting us know , anyone of them could really just put on the act but haffner is the best character to be red john, Let me know what you guys think about this whole thing , oh one more thing , i think the fact that partridge said tyger tyger before he died Could mean he was hypnotized to not Blur out who the killer was Or he was actually hinting it to lisbon so she could understand something but why wouldn't he Just Spit out the identity of red john... maybe he knows hes in the group but hasnt seen his face... maybe partridge was an accomplice and When jane scared him Red john thought of it as him cracking and went to murder him , idk This is a part that doesn't make sense at all unless he was hypnotized , because we know red john can hypnotize people... also The actor that plays Kirkland is coming back in episode 8 , THIS DOES NOT MEAN HES RED JOHN......... this simply means either jane will convince michael that kirkland was killed by red john/Tyger tyger ... this will cause him to give up red johns identity Or it could be a silly flashback! but we'll know when we know won't we? :)
anyways thank you people for reading my post i hope this will help you all in figuring out who he is , I started sleeping halfway through the post so sorry if i missed anything out , But I would love for you all to comment and please dont hesitate to ask anything
