I dislike people being sooo convinced about Ray Haffner!
He is just an oppressed kid in the shadow of his own father and in my eyes dumb as a shoe.
Father is Brett Stiles. RJ is not Haffner.







I dislike people being sooo convinced about Ray Haffner!
He is just an oppressed kid in the shadow of his own father and in my eyes dumb as a shoe.
Father is Brett Stiles. RJ is not Haffner.
Hi again
first of all sorry for my bad english ( as i said in my thought about tiger tiger conversation ( Theory #6941 )) so i am not going to explain all the details.
this site is a free sharing place. so every one can say what ever they want.even if they think RJ is rigsby's child because he had a red toy.
As show describes red john is super smart , super psychologist ,prideful, medium built , rich , with a lots of connections and maybe even best serial killer in the world etc.
I hope they explain how Jane narrow down his suspects to seven because it doesn't make any sense what so ever . he didn't use any kind of technology ( hacking , online tracking etc) and he didn't use anyone's help. only thing he said was they could be in all R.J crime scenes seriously? how?
lets take a look at list (without over thinking):
according to show suspects are down to five so kirkland and partridge are dead ( i said without over thinking )
Reede is too fat And as everyone knows on tv shows business you can't say your show is gonna last for four years so introdusing red john in fourth season is kind of absurd.same goes to bertram and haffner.(for the last time don't over think)
bertram : Jane easily in (S3 E1) made him talk garbage on tv . he lost in poker game and honestly in haven't seen a single cleverness in him( yes i know he is the director of cbi ) .
Haffner : same as bertram, jane easily played him . i know in this season everything is pointin to him but jane made him look like a complete fool . and don't forget he played so poor that even lisbon realized he is from visualize
Mcalister: Xander is a great player ( no doubt ) but still i think some one from a random episode becomes a main suspect !? and i trust you remember rock, paper scissors game.
if you want you can say red john is miss leading jane but if he can kill an innocent kid because jane disrespected him well think real hard if he is gonna make a fool of himself.
finally Stiles : He is too old but why he is still on the list? character wise he is the only one who can be red john . he has all the charisma and money and brainwashing skills and etc . he never acted stupidly , scared or out of control . But he is too old
I have a lot to say about changing red john and story which caused all this paradoxes and loose ends but i hardly wrote this much in english
thanks for your time , i know most of you disagree with me and i'll be happy to see your comments
My theory is not long or complicated. I think Ray Haffner is Red John. We've eliminated Partridge and Kirkland. My reason for thinking it's Haffner is that Bertram, Smith, Stiles and McAllister do not sound like Red John. Plus, Red John didn't hurt Lisbon. Haffner has said a lot of times " I like you Teresa". Maybe that's why.
I dont know who red john is. Some points though:
If red john is in the list, then its natural for Bruno to say that we can trust it.
If red john isn't on the list, again Bruno has to lie. He can't kill the suspense, he can't say: 'guys, I'll surprise you'.
POINT 1: So, Bruno saying that we can trust the list means NOTHING.
This is a mystery and drama series. Red john CANNOT be obvious AND he cant be RANDOM (with the exception that he is so random, that was totally unexpected - like RJ being rosalinda harker). The only way that I would be satisfied by who red john is, is that he is either a part of the team, or someone who is connected to PJ via blood relation or other strong emotional connection. This, in my mind, rules out Ray Haffner (random guy), Sheriff (random guy), Brett Stiles (obvious), Reede Smith (totally random guy), Gale Bertram (obvious). There is a distant possibility someone of them is red john, but a strong back story connecting them to PJ is needed.
From what I've seen till now, RJ is not on the list, regardless what the writer says. (has to say). I tend to like theories that include unknown brothers, mystic fathers, team members or totally unexpected person.
Why did Kirkland kill Jason Lennon?
If he too was desperately looking for red john, he should have kidnapped lennon. why kill him?
I just dont understand the character Kirkland.
isnt it strange that before the episodes of this season aired and before the suspect list was public nobody really thought ray, reed or thomas was a suspect for being red john and now....the mayority is voting for ray, some for thomas and a few for reed.
so basiscly.. i think.. ur fooled by the writers
I'm not and indian, bitches!!!!!!