Not accusing anyone. Just wanted to say, can we PLEASE stop with the RJ is a vigilante, he only kills the corrupt cops, he kills the Tyger Tyger members, etc theories? RJ isn't a Robin Hood kind of character. He's a cold blooded murderer. He killed Jane's innocent wife and poor little kid for no reason! There is absolutely no way whatsoever to justify that. He's just a bad guy. Please accept that and stop posting,theories that try to paint RJ as some kind of misunderstood hero. Thank you!
So guys I've followed this site for several weeks, reading every theory and even though I can not prove my theory fully, I want to share it with you:
It's kinda long so stay with me here :)
Assumption
In my eyes Red John did not kill Jane's Family. I believe it was the Tyger Tyger organization, tricking Jane to join the CBI and helping them to find their rival, Red John.
Don't get me wrong, i still think Red John is a murder, but he did not kill Jane's Familiy.
Why do i think that?
We hear the Tyger Tyger poem the first time RJ saves Jane. It's obvious that he means the Tyger Tyger organisation with that poem, but why give Jane the hint?
Red John pretty sure knows that the Tyger Tyger organisation killed Jane's Family and tries to feed him hidden infomartions.
Now In the Desert we see Jane facing Partridge and getting a bit nervous. As stated often before, he possibly told this the Tyger Tyger organisation and they decided to kill him due to him being a too big risk.
Before Partridge dies, he tells Lison "Tyger Tyger". She tells that Jane and he acts as if he doesnt know what it means, but i'm very sure he understands the there is some kind of organisation (maybe already knows for sure).
My Theory is, that the List of 7 are all members of the Tyger Tyger organisation and thus rivals of Red John.
Now the question is why are they rivals? This will be revealed further in the plot IF my theory is correct.
I believe that Jane will find out the truth about the death of his family, killing all involved with the help of Red John and in the end they part away, as Red John is not the real Killer of Jane's family and all he lives for is revenge that he has gotten.
So guys, tell me if you find any twists or impossible things in my theory (no doubt you will) so we can discuss this :)
the only suspect on the list, who is scheduled for the upcoming "red john" episode (6x08), is bertram.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3196216/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
other options are: turns out red john is not on the list, or we wont find out who he is after all.
Let's assume Haffner is RJ, for the reasons stated in other theories. I think someone here also said that Heller said that PJ will face a dilemma when he catches RJ- what to do. My theory is that when PJ catches RJ (lets presume its Haffner), Lisbon will be taken by the "Tyger, Tyger" group and RJ will be the only one who could help, so PJ will be faced with a choice between saving his friend or getting his revenge. Also, remember when Bertram said that he wants to be there when RJ is caught? I reckon this is because RJ knows about the "Tyger, Tyger" group (which I think Bertram is a part of), and he wants to kill RJ before he reveals the secret.
“Tiger, tiger”
organization has always appeared when someone is killed. Maybe to recognize each
other, that they are doing something in behalf of the organization (killing of Kirkland)
or to ask for revenge from the other members because the killed one is part of
the organization (Partridge, Todd).
The only
link between “tiger, tiger” and RJ was made by Brett Stilles who said RJ is preparing
a party (with Kristina Frye), who was abducted by the killer of the 2 copy-cats
(everybody consider that he was RJ) who recited the tiger, tiger poem (and at
the end mentioned some “best whishing” on behalf of Kristina and also mention
the “roll tide” expression, connected also with Kristina).
If Stilles
wouldn’t mentioned RJ in connection with Kristina, there would be no real connection
between RJ and the two copy-cat killer, and the copy-cats killer would have
been only a member of “tiger, tiger” organization who came to rescue Jane, not
necessary RJ.
A
conspiracy theory could explain these discrepancies by the fact that Kristina
was kidnapped by RJ from one who has kidnapped her first.
Also, Todd
who was put on fire in CBI, never mentioned RJ, he mentioned only a big
organization. So he could be put on fire by a member of “tiger, tiger”
organization to silenced him and not by RJ, and that put Jane on a wrong track
(a red herring) in search for RJ.
The
tiger,tiger organization could be an organization that do some “justice” when
the legal system can’t.
So, I
consider RJ and “tiger, tiger” organization two different things, with no
connection.
And for
many reason mentioned already, I consider Haffner the most fitted suspect to be
RJ. His previous position in CBI could give him information about tiger, tiger
organization. That could help him to give Patrick a red herring with the tiger,
tiger poem (if he was the real killer of the two copy-cats)
RedJohn isn't someone on the list of 7 and it isn't someone who is dead or an obscure character who has only appeared once It's Patrick Jane.
I've got to go with cop instinct on this and make Virgil Minelli my prime suspect. To be sure, it would be a black eye for a fellow officer of the law to be a serial killer, but I've been suspicious of the guy since season 1. I have alerted my commanding officer, Sheriff Taylor, of my theory.
He fits the physical description, he has the means, he has the opportunity.
From a casting perspective, Gregory Itzin has the gravitas and the chops to play the role. His scenes with Simon Baker are fantastic, kudos to both, you're never quite sure who is playing who and what their ulterior motives are. I could buy him as Red John.
I think the list of 7 suspects is a marketing and ratings ploy, and a clever one at that to reboot the series and bring it to a conclusion. The list to me wreaks too much of a parlor game of Clue, whereas Jane and Red John are playing grandmaster chess. Ultimately I think the list is misdirection, Patrick Jane is on to his man, finally one step ahead, and he's in the process of outwitting and drawing out Red John.
The writers did a subtle job of inserting Minelli's name in the last episode.
I am not certain, I'll be the first to apologize to Virgil Minelli and wish him a happy fishing retirement if I turn out to be wrong. If not, he's got a reckoning coming, do what you have to do Patrick. I'll get my one bullet ready.
Seasons 1-3 to me were outstanding. I would've bought Bradley Whitford as the evil mastermind if it ended there, another wonderful actor. Seasons 4-5 to me were not the quality of the first three. Hopefully season 6 does the series justice, it deserves a quality conclusion.
Finally, to the 28 scumbags who have suspected J.J. Laroche, my lawyer will soon be serving slander and libel lawsuits you vicious bastards. I acknowledge he's quirky and misunderstood, but J.J. Laroche is good people.
Best regards,
Bernard P. Fife, M.D. (Mayberry Deputy)