Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I can't understand this newfound mania to accuse Minelli, Rigsby, Michael Kirkland, Brett Partridge and ESPECIALLY PATRICK JANE!!! Please end this madness!!!

I feel that Heller is loosing his touch this season. Earlier he said that the Red John line would end in the Show Finale in 2014, now he's ending it in November 2013? He killed Partridge without a motive. He killed Miller to give Red John an excuse other for being a psychic, and like Patrick said, Red John could have had 1000 ways of getting that memory. Why choose Sophie? Kirkland is killed by a secret organization that uses the line "Tyger, Tyger" as a password. Why would Red John recite that poem to Jane? Why would he give to Jane the mean for recognizing the members of his own organization? Unless Red John isn't part of the "Tyger, Tyger".
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From what it appears Red John episode will feature Michael Gaston(Bertram) and Drew Powell(Smith) as characters from the list, so Red John may be one of them if he will be caught in that episode.

I feel this is going to a total disaster though. Ye can't put together an organization of corrupt mediocre men and tell the tv viewer "Their mediocre leader(either Bertram either Smith), is Red John. Yup. The same Red John who hypnotized Christina Frye and knew about Roll Tide, or the same Red John that won at least three rounds at the end of Seasons 3, 4 and 5 vs Patrick, without mentioning Jared Renfrew or the framing of Hightower."

Honestly, I don't think John would be someone who would insult and then pick a fight with CBI agents on the Crime Scene, or someone who would need poker counsels from Patrick Jane(If someone is better than Patrick at bluffing, that's John). There are two guys in the whole series, with the potential of being Red John: Bret Stiles and Sean Barlow. They are the only guys who have proven to outsmart Jane.

Even the list being real is a BIG failure, because that makes The Mentalist, a show which is all about smart traps and intelligent games, a mechanic police chase with Process-of-Elemination(POE).

I think John shouldn't had been at all in that list, because it's made of such poor choices.

Heller thinks he's smart. I'll show him smart:
1-Sean Barlow-Super Intelligent Mentalist. Jane shook hands with him in the past plus he
2-Bret Stiles-Leader of Visualize.Enough said.
3-Gabe Mancini-FBI Agent,I always saw him superior to Smith, plus Mancini is left-handed in italian. Some think RJ is left handed.
4-Royston Daniel-Very rich master of Hypnosis
5-Dean Harken-Money, Power, Friends in the FBI etc.
6-Walter Mashburn-Unlimited Money and resources to corrupt people. Also, very intelligent, cold blooded and, just like John, shows a certain interest in Lisbon
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7-Robert Kirkland-For all the reason some people, at the end of season 5, thought he was alive.

Now ask yourselves this: If this was the list, do you think any of them lacks what it takes to be Red John. Anyone of those guys could be just "ruled out", like you do with Heller's choices, especially if they would appear in the sixth season like little red herrings, just like the suspects of Hellers' List do?

See. That is smart.

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is a list of smart people, anyone of which has the intellectual capacity of being Red John, not just random guys who appeared briefly in the second episode of the first season, or Smith, Bertram, Partridge or Haffner, all those played more than once by Jane. Simply people of inferior intelligence compared to Jane. John has to be superior. As I said, you can't fake a superior intelligence by making an jigsaw puzzle organzation of mediocre pieces.

Like it or not, Heller lost his touch this season, not because he killed Bob,but because Bob couldn't give the "Tyger, Tyger" thing to Jane and all roads lead to unlikely suspects Bertram and Smith, and because there are nonsenses in the investigation, like, Why didn't Kirkland ask Lennon who John was?;Why did John kill Sophie when he had 1000 ways of getting the memory and Why did John kill Partridge?


Any smart ideas Mr.Heller, because, honestly, another kill in the 5th Episode(that of Beth Riesgraf's character from what we got from the promo), would be such an unnatural way to solve this knot.
UNLESS:
You have thought for the real Red John to be Stiles, but it's the TTO(Tyger Tyger Organization) who killed Patrick's family for some unknown reason and RJ recited the poem to Patrick's ear to warn him of his family's killers, and if it's the TTO who killed Todd Johnson and Brett Partridge because they were with Stiles, and with their poems they identified their killer, not their ally.The TTO would recruit people within law enforcement, Orville Tanner, Jared Renfrew and Todd Johnson were outside Law Enforcement. Plus Johnson was killing cops(TTO members maybe?) for Stiles. Dumar Tanner under the name of Sheriff Ted Hardy and Brett Partridge may have been Stiles' agents inside the Law Enforcement and(maybe) TTO.

Then again, why doesn't Stiles appear in the 8th Episode?

And one request to the community: Can you direct me to the sources who say that RJ will be captured or killed at the 8th episode.

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Not so much a theory as an observation.   All titles have had some reference to the color red.   That is until 6x09   'My Blue Heaven' followed by 'Green Thumb'.  Looks as if color is still referenced in the title., but not just red anymore.       

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Theory #7368 • By EdBrazil
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I think It may be something as simple as Red John is called Red John because of the type of women he likes. Rosalind Harker (Alicia Witt), a blind woman and former lover of Red John was also a Red Head.  Also Rosalind lets you know Red John is a man.  Or it could be Rosalind herself.  Or Rosalind could have been lying about Red John being a man.  Or Rosalind and is Van Pelts sister and together they are Red John.

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Everything u need to know about RJ is here !!!

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0AzanD0_boRT2xzanc3VkU5OFE&usp=sharing

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If Patrick Jane isn't wrong about list of seven... here is my conclusion
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1378568_673580269319001_1293271381_n.jpg

I think it is BERTRAM or MCALLISTER.
McAllister might be on those places just because Red John knows Patrick will suspect him.
So that might be RJ's plan (we know Reede works for RJ so that probably IS his plan.

So I think it is Bertram. He was in that shopping centre and he is all the time with Patrick.
On the other side - McAllister is afraid of highs and even though HE SAVES PATRICK! That is strange. Only Red John wants him alive so much. Also, he met Patrick early so that also might be Red John's plan.

What is more important for Red John? Meeting Patrick all the time (Bertram) or just meet him soon?

Dont forget Bertram's knowledge about RJ's poet...

Even though - BERTRAM is my guess.

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Just to all people who think that it was Kirkland's twin who killed Lennon, twins don't look the same after 40 or so years. People's appearance changes depending on their lifestyle etc, so it would be very hard for Michael to look EXACTLY like Bob.

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Check this out if you want to know the clue which will be revealed in the next episode:

http://tea-and-cookies1000.tumblr.com/image/65110118689

Please note that this is not from the CBS website, so it might as well be fake. But given the episode's title, I think it is very much possible. Anyway, wanted to share it with you :)

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