If it's true that Red John has a three dot tattoo on his arm, this could give us a hint who he really is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo
Obviously those dot tattoos are used by prisoners very often.
If it's true that Red John has a three dot tattoo on his arm, this could give us a hint who he really is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo
Obviously those dot tattoos are used by prisoners very often.
And speaking of Red John, so we left off with a list of seven suspects, Will any of the seven be showing up this season? Can you talk a little bit about what could be happening with that?
Certainly, all seven of those suspects will be part of this season and the CBI, Jane, and the CBI are doing their best to work out which one of them is Red John. I can tell you it won’t be a sort of Ten Little Indians type of of set up, it’s more of a Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, which one of these guys is the guy.
Tinker Tailor soldier Spy, it is about finding a spy in ntelligenca agency from a list of 5 person, and at the end, the spy is one of the five persons.
So, as much as i wanted that Red John would be someone out of the list, and specifically : Walter M/ashburn, because he is the only person who would fit and not include a deception ( see theory 7201 : http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/7021#disqus_thread. )
Red John is one of the list, there will be some twist so that the true Red John will reveal his true identity and avoid a sloppy writing, but let us not forget, the season had been going for 6 years, and somehow i find that this season is independant and made it own way from the other ones, as someone said : Average writing for average people, producer are searching for money, and we know that too much mystery is always avoided by the audience.
Who ever thought that the Mentalist would be different from other commercial series were wrong, it is one pattern, and it is always about the money since everything is discussed between the producer and the writers.
AND IF SOMEONE CLOSE TO THE MENTALIST ENTOURAGE IS READING THIS, PLEASE TELL THE WRITERS : DARE TO GIVE THE MENTALIST THE END IT DESERVE, THE MAGISTRAL ONE. IF NOT, THE SHOW WOULD BE DEAD, AS DEAD AS CRAIG O LAUGHLIN !
To avoid and also encourage some conclusions, please, rewatch "The Red Barn" episode before watching "The Red Tattoo". Focus on what Haffner speaks, on Van Pelt and DiBuono, and the last scene as well.
Excuse me for posting not a theory.
I do not mean to sound condescending....but
It is Ellis Mars...
Have you ever thought about why Timothy Carter was cast because he is almost a twin of Mars...
Really, look still them side by side...Mars is the true payoff that we've been asking for...a where's Waldo type that will tie all of our loose ends up...
He is Mar = Mars
"Please excuse my brusqueness"!!!!! Reread the letter posted on Jane's daughters door again...the dialect is identical to Mars..."worm"
The other suspects are all flawed and we are enjoying the process...but a true RJ payoff will be something weaves through seasons 1 thru 6. Not writing as we go!
We'll see!
Some few observations: Everybody thought about Ray Haffner after we discovered that RJ probably was a Visualize member, and Brett Stiles may have some more connections with him.
When PJ was in the mall with Bertram, why the RJ friend (which pretended to be him), was there and with a gun? To protect his boss?
I'm not suggesting anyone, just bringing something many people thought. Who is RJ was decided since the first episode?
Would be cheating if he didnt decide since the begining who Rj is. Because leaving connections enough to make a way to show any of the 7 as the real Rj, would be a fake puzzle. If he reads blogs, he would avoid the most popular suspects.
RJ IS LISBON BECAUSE LISBON HAS BLUE EYES,SO EPISODE BLUE HEAVEN IS LISBON EYE.SO RJ IS LISBON BECASUE LISBON HAS BLACK HAIR AND RJ IS A BALD MAN WHO HAS BLACK HAIR.CASE CLOSED. (*explosion behind me and i'm not looking at it*)
I can't understand this newfound mania to accuse Minelli, Rigsby, Michael Kirkland, Brett Partridge and ESPECIALLY PATRICK JANE!!! Please end this madness!!!
I feel that Heller is loosing his touch this season. Earlier he said that the Red John line would end in the Show Finale in 2014, now he's ending it in November 2013? He killed Partridge without a motive. He killed Miller to give Red John an excuse other for being a psychic, and like Patrick said, Red John could have had 1000 ways of getting that memory. Why choose Sophie? Kirkland is killed by a secret organization that uses the line "Tyger, Tyger" as a password. Why would Red John recite that poem to Jane? Why would he give to Jane the mean for recognizing the members of his own organization? Unless Red John isn't part of the "Tyger, Tyger".
BUT:
From what it appears Red John episode will feature Michael Gaston(Bertram) and Drew Powell(Smith) as characters from the list, so Red John may be one of them if he will be caught in that episode.
I feel this is going to a total disaster though. Ye can't put together an organization of corrupt mediocre men and tell the tv viewer "Their mediocre leader(either Bertram either Smith), is Red John. Yup. The same Red John who hypnotized Christina Frye and knew about Roll Tide, or the same Red John that won at least three rounds at the end of Seasons 3, 4 and 5 vs Patrick, without mentioning Jared Renfrew or the framing of Hightower."
Honestly, I don't think John would be someone who would insult and then pick a fight with CBI agents on the Crime Scene, or someone who would need poker counsels from Patrick Jane(If someone is better than Patrick at bluffing, that's John). There are two guys in the whole series, with the potential of being Red John: Bret Stiles and Sean Barlow. They are the only guys who have proven to outsmart Jane.
Even the list being real is a BIG failure, because that makes The Mentalist, a show which is all about smart traps and intelligent games, a mechanic police chase with Process-of-Elemination(POE).
I think John shouldn't had been at all in that list, because it's made of such poor choices.
Heller thinks he's smart. I'll show him smart:
1-Sean Barlow-Super Intelligent Mentalist. Jane shook hands with him in the past plus he
2-Bret Stiles-Leader of Visualize.Enough said.
3-Gabe Mancini-FBI Agent,I always saw him superior to Smith, plus Mancini is left-handed in italian. Some think RJ is left handed.
4-Royston Daniel-Very rich master of Hypnosis
5-Dean Harken-Money, Power, Friends in the FBI etc.
6-Walter Mashburn-Unlimited Money and resources to corrupt people. Also, very intelligent, cold blooded and, just like John, shows a certain interest in Lisbon.
7-Robert Kirkland-For all the reason some people, at the end of season 5, thought he was alive.
Now ask yourselves this: If this was the list, do you think any of them lacks what it takes to be Red John. Anyone of those guys could be just "ruled out", like you do with Heller's choices, especially if they would appear in the sixth season like little red herrings, just like the suspects of Hellers' List do?
See. That is smart.
Smart is a list of smart people, anyone of which has the intellectual capacity of being Red John, not just random guys who appeared briefly in the second episode of the first season, or Smith, Bertram, Partridge or Haffner, all those played more than once by Jane. Simply people of inferior intelligence compared to Jane. John has to be superior. As I said, you can't fake a superior intelligence by making an jigsaw puzzle organzation of mediocre pieces.
Like it or not, Heller lost his touch this season, not because he killed Bob,but because Bob couldn't give the "Tyger, Tyger" thing to Jane and all roads lead to unlikely suspects Bertram and Smith, and because there are nonsenses in the investigation, like, Why didn't Kirkland ask Lennon who John was?;Why did John kill Sophie when he had 1000 ways of getting the memory and Why did John kill Partridge?
Any smart ideas Mr.Heller, because, honestly, another kill in the 5th Episode(that of Beth Riesgraf's character from what we got from the promo), would be such an unnatural way to solve this knot.
UNLESS:
You have thought for the real Red John to be Stiles, but it's the TTO(Tyger Tyger Organization) who killed Patrick's family for some unknown reason and RJ recited the poem to Patrick's ear to warn him of his family's killers, and if it's the TTO who killed Todd Johnson and Brett Partridge because they were with Stiles, and with their poems they identified their killer, not their ally.The TTO would recruit people within law enforcement, Orville Tanner, Jared Renfrew and Todd Johnson were outside Law Enforcement. Plus Johnson was killing cops(TTO members maybe?) for Stiles. Dumar Tanner under the name of Sheriff Ted Hardy and Brett Partridge may have been Stiles' agents inside the Law Enforcement and(maybe) TTO.
Then again, why doesn't Stiles appear in the 8th Episode?
And one request to the community: Can you direct me to the sources who say that RJ will be captured or killed at the 8th episode.