Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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We have to consider how Patrick Jane solves every ordinary case. In most cases Jane keeps his best suspect with him. He does not tell anyone, even Lisbon. Yes, he leads the team to all the possible suspects, and always surprises the team by revealing who the real suspect is at the end of the investigation. 

If we will look closely on what is happening with the list of 7, it is just similar with how Jane solves an ordinary case, but this time it is a big one. He intentionally leads the team to investigate these 7 heads..  The question here is whether Red John is in that list or not.

Let us take for instance the case of San Joaquin Killer. He led the team with all the suspects who are serial killers. Only to find out that James Fanzer, the one who is engaged his self in the investigation, is the San Joaquin Killer. 


Come to think of it, if you are Patrick Jane. Are you really going to tell anyone who your primary leads are? You are Patrick Jane and you want to kill that monster who murdered your wife and child, are you gonna tell Lisbon your suspects if you know she is going to prevent you from doing so (killing red john)?

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/253829361431858/ let us join this group guys.... 

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Honestly, I don't know who it is. I mean, it's not necessarily anybody on his list and I think that it will take us all by surprise, because that's good entertainment. http://31.media.tumblr.com/46178475d177c51f8c9e58457b28fab3/tumblr_mu03sdCsfV1swpbceo1_400.gif

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And now that he has a baby and a whife, killing tchem all (!!!) would be a perfect revenge and such a symetry. And the posters, I too think they tell a lot!. Defo him!

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*********This 3 dot tattoo  thing*******

If it's real and I think it is --- another theory may be that RJ is an old cancer patient.  Radiation therapy patients sometimes have dots tattooed on their skin for beam localization.  Maybe, just maybe  this is tied to the young girl who was dying during young Jane's days during his carnie life (we know Tangie Ambrose is returning for an episode).  
Or Jane's stay in the mental hospital will come into play again.  Maybe RJ easily moved about the corridors as a patients... maybe even seeing the same psychiatrist....????

In Morse Code 3 dots =  the letter S....

In literature three dots in the form of a triangle means "therefore."

Doesn't Visualize use a triangle in their logo?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...  so many theories.

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Theory #7432 • By jhosfafjo
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Not a theory. This is my alternate ending story.

RJ didn't kill PJ cause he wants to be at the head of Tyger cult, and needs his help to bust others. PJ finds out about the cult and and the team starts dealing with it, law enforcements join and the hunt for Tyger members begins. The cult who protected RJ finds out about his plan and decide to kill both him and Patrick. Patrick has to evade and escape the hands of the cult and runs to hide at the storage where he was once almost killed (Season 2 finale), and who is there also hiding - RJ. RJ lost all accomplices and is in his endgame, Patrick figures it all out, he finds out that this man is in danger because he is the guy who got deep too much, this man is his nemesis Red John. Patrick looks at him with straight face and says: Looks like you win some, you lose some. RJ smiles and says: This isn't how I imagined our face off, aren't you scared, nervous, drowned in wrath. Patrick says calmly, sorry, that has to wait we've got your angry friends on our tail, ready to knock on this door any moment. RJ says, I know, and I'm gonna stand my ground, Patrick says, I've got a plan and you will help me.
Patrick: Do you have a gun.
RJ: No.
Patrick: Ok, go get that pipe and put it through the door, so we buy some time. I'll go see if there's any other exits here.
RJ grabs the pipe goes for the door, two men take down the door, one of them is Reede Smith, RJ kicks him over the head, other guy pulls out a gun, there's a gunshot, one of Bret Stiles men shot the guy, he comes in and says, you two, come with me. They enter the vehicle and and Stiles is sitting inside, he fatherly says, you two WILL behave. Whatever you have between you two you will forget for now, there's chaos in the Law enforcement, corruption, and Jane your list is out in the open, all of the suspects plus you are in great danger. For now we disappear. Patrick looks at RJ, pulls out a knife gives it to Stiles and says to the driver, drive.

End of season.

Season 7 EP 1

2 Days after the escape.

Bret Stiles, Patrick and RJ, are hidden on somewhat unknown location. Somewhere in the desert. Patrick and RJ engage into the most interesting conversation (Taking a few episodes to explain everything that happened in past and how) The Tygers catch up with them, and raid their hideout, police is also not far behind RJ stands up to fight gets stabbed in chest, Jane gets shot in shoulder, they both fall, Stiles is nowhere to be seen, he tricked them, he leads the organisation, police comes in large numbers, kills the Tygers, Jane crawls to the dying RJ to check if he's alive, RJ pulls out a knife from his chest and says "what immortal hand or eye dare frame thy fearful symmetry and stabs Jane in the neck, Lisbon who's with the police shoots RJ in the head, rushes to Jane who is dying but smiling, and says to Lisbon, did He who made the lamb make thee? And we see Janes wife and daughter beside him, looking down at him, and they say we love you, and always will. Jane dies, Lisbon cries her guts out. Screens turns black.

Written by: BH


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Lets think about a couple of things. Why hasn't RJ killed PJ when he had the chance (he can still easily kill him). PJ is clearly quite a big threat to RJ, so why not get rid of him? He usually kills anyone who is a threat to him (e.g. Bosco). Why does he try and befriend Patrick? Personally, the only thing I can think off is that RJ needs Patrick's help for one reason or another- maybe the RJ wants to bring down the "Tyger, Tyger" group? I am probably wrong though.

Now, the main question, who is RJ? Haffner fits all the descriptions given by Rosalind Harker and Sophie Miller. He is also a member of Visualize, who IMO will play a key role soon. Add that to RJ letting Lisbon live when he had an easy chance to kill her and the fact that Haffner clearly really likes Lisbon.

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