Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #7663 • By Reepleting
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The only way Walter Mashburn is Red John is if the Tattoo thing is a lie , we seen Walter shirtless before he has no Tattoo so SHUT THE HELL UP WITH WALTER you tards , Sofia said Jay Roth sat calmly in the waiting room right? well look in the next episode all 5 are there look how that wait

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So I'm assuming that since the private investigator last night recognized RJ as soon as he came to the door, that we can completely rule out Cho, Jane, & Van Pelt as suspects, since the investigator would have said something if she recognized them at the CBI.

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The list is fake and I think the next episode will prove it. In the promo for Fire and Brimstone, Lisbon says "If you do this, and you're throwing your life away", Jane: "No one is leaving, bye Lisbon" and the building blows up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhqIiOERZeY



I'm suggesting that in this next episode Jane is going to fake his death along with all remaining fake suspects. Lisbon and the team won't know and Lisbon's grief will help convince RJ that it was real. RJ will relax because Jane is dead and Lisbon will think RJ is dead because she believed in the list of seven suspects who are all dead at that point. It will be like the season 4 finale where Jane faked a breakdown only this trap has been carefully sewn for several episodes. The audience didn't know that Jane's breakdown was fake until he told Lisbon. Similarly in this season, the audience believes the list is real because Lisbon does.



I think it was the tiger tiger group that killed the private investigator in the Red Tattoo so that will be no help in finding RJ, it did however give Jane a good excuse to get the remaining fake suspects in a room together that Lisbon would believe. With everything happening with the tiger tiger group, it's more likely that they were the ones feeling so threatened that they wanted to bug Jane's office.



Now I've always believed RJ to be Walter Mashburn and as far as I can remember he is the only suspect that had a phobia before they started shoving supposed phobias from the fake suspects down our throats. Jane guessed that Mashburn had a mild dirt phobia. RJ has always been very good at leaving no evidence behind at crime scenes. From the psychiatrist we know that RJ has a phobia of some kind. Now consider when RJ visited the psychiatrist, it would be very important that he didn't leave any fingerprints so he probably touched as little as possible and wiped down anything he actually touched. This would've come across as a cleanliness phobia to Sophia Miller. RJ is not scared of birds, heights, or spiders. RJ is simply very good at not leaving condemning evidence behind.

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Okay, so it's not likely but this has to be discussed anyway. It seems to me that all the suspects are playing with pj, they know he knows shout the phobias. What if, Jane gave the list to Lisbon because she is red John or involved. She is the only one who saw the dvd too, which could have been staged by pj. What if the whole getting the suspects into one room is staged by pj because Lisbon is the orally the only one that is on her way. I know it's doubtful, but everything should be discussed, every avenue explored. She has been there from the beginning and she would be the one you would not have guessed.

It's just food for thought. There is something not right about pj telling her about the list.

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red john is not on that list . if you noticed folks that when Lisbon got the tip off on one of the suspects you could have seen on the computer where the other 6 suspects was located. these suspects was no way nearby when the Lisbon and partridge scene went down. that should say something. go back to the episodes with  Walter Washburn and another also max winter who was portrayed so suttle that I think a lot of mentalist fans missed the clues with regards to him being an rj suspect. observe how easily he manipulated Jane into taking the gun as a gift, it was almost as if he new jane's thoughts and what was going to take place next . the only two other mentalist presented in this entire show was WALTER MASHBURN  AND MAX WINTER   the man who gave jane the gun that he used to kill  the  the guy who was posing to be red john. RED JOHN is either of the two. I cant choose but I have a strong vibe that its one of these men with evidence for theory based on observing but WALTER IS STILL MY FAVORED SUSPECT ,I THINK I KINDA WANT TO SEE HIM ABOVE ALL AS  RJ.

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Here is my Simple Theory..

In fact i'm not sure 100% of who is Red John , BUT...
In S06E03, at 03:35 Sheriff Thomas Mccalister came , and began to solve a case with jane ; The weird thing that they are alike , they solve the case by observing and getting conclusions faster. He is clever..
I think it's a link between RJ's phobia and Pidgeons.

  Pigeons appear 3 times: 

in the s06e01 (when Lisbon enter to the house , when Partridge was killed)
and
in the s06e02 ( when Jane and Lisbon stayed in the bench, and a woman next to them give some eat to pigeons)
and
 in the s06e03 ( Mccalister, when scared about Pigeon touches him , said, i hate Pigeons )

Plus Bruno Heller told us a big clue is in the first episode : It could be Pigeons.Sheriff Mccalister is a clever man , fits all the descriptions given and hates Pigeons.

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This interview with the writer of The Red Tattoo is very revealing:

http://www.tvguide.com/news/mentalist-red-john-visualize-ray-haffner-1072592.aspx

If you look at the responses, it seems quite clear that Haffner is not Red John, although the writers wanted the viewers to suspect that perhaps he is, or that he is working for him or the TT conspiracy. For example (emphasis added by me):

"So you have this effect of, either he's [Haffner] Red John, or is he like John the
Baptist, the one who sort of comes before Red John? Is this Red John or
is this just this tool of Red John that is showing up to sort of throw
Jane off? Who's the puppet master behind it? Is Bret Stiles doing all
this to sort of screw with Jane's head even more than he has in the
past?"


... Haffner tells Jane there's a "comeuppance" heading
his way and makes reference to the fact that he has friends in CBI. Can
this be seen as an allusion to the "Tiger Tiger" conspiracy that was
teased in last week's episode?

Mahoney: Yes,
I think that's exactly right. Ray Haffner is a guy who used to work in
CBI. He's a guy who has connections all through law enforcement. We're
giving the audience information that our team might not have yet
. The
team takes this as, is this a Red John threat? Is this a Visualize
threat? But I think you're exactly right, and I think the audience
hopefully is going to pick that up. What Haffner's talking about is
there's chatter in the world of police.
A lot of people have this sense
that there is a secret society out there. And there are rumors that Jane
has really pissed those people off, and that's a dangerous thing to
have done
.

" ... It's important to remember that Ray Haffner has not had a particularly pleasant experience with Patrick Jane. [Laughs] And
while Ray Haffner really does have a genuine fondness for Teresa
Lisbon, Patrick Jane to him is just a nightmare. He's the guy who
screwed up Haffner's chances of sort of moving up in the CBI.
To some
extent, I suspect [Jane is] part of Haffner's motivation for leaving
CBI. Jane is that guy who's just always one step ahead. For Haffner,
throughout this episode, he's very happy with the idea that there's a
case that Jane seems to be stumped by. Unfortunately for him, of course
that turns out not to be the case. But essentially when he's saying to
him, "You've got a comeuppance coming," he devoutly wishes that to be
true. And from the rumors he's heard, he's pretty confident that that's
going to happen
."

*******  THIS IS COMPLETELY AT ODDS WITH RED JOHN. Is the writer here revealing that Haffner is not (can not be) Red John?

"Jane is going to sense clearly that there's the threat of Red John, and
then there's this other threat
. Is this Red John, or is this an entirely
separate other thing? Are they connected? If they are connected, how?
Certainly we've heard Red John say "Tiger Tiger" to Jane personally. But
again, is that Red John just screwing with Jane? Is that giving him
clues that are helpful
, because why would he do that? Or is it giving
him clues that are going to lead Jane into traps? I think that's one of
the things that Jane now has to figure out. He's putting together all
these clues that he's got, but which ones are the ones that he can
trust? What's the direction that he should be heading in, and where are
the traps that Red John is leaving for him?
"



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