I think its Minelli, they make it so obvius because they want you think there is someone else
I think its Minelli, they make it so obvius because they want you think there is someone else
I really think Red John is Patrick Jane, maybe with a personality disorder that he can't remember what he did with his family and all the victims,also the Red John smiley face looks like him at least thats what I think, because he is a joker and very funny, seems to be amused all the time, or maybe someone related to him very close to him, but if not; for me its too obvious is someone from the inside with high rank, a cop or someone from the team. Some times Grace looks very suspicious too, her computer always have received the messages, weird!, and she seems to be depressed, mad or bipolar must of the time, Im sure something is not right with her, but anyways everyone in the team has some kind of secret, Thats my theory!
I like all your theories about Jane being red john, but has anyone else noticed that Director of CBI Gale Bertram has quoted William Blake several different times. Which red john is doing all the time too. He would fit the age range for red john better he was there just b4 Jane shot who we thought was red john at the end of season 3 then mysteriously no where around after he shots the guy and for there theory of red john possibly being a cop he would have to b high up in rank.
Well, you all are obviously quite brilliant, but I think Red John is an idea
before I start, I am going to tell you that I am an Asian, so you would expect bad grammars and vocabulary
I think Red John is an idea which delivered by the 1st killer since 1998. It's an idea for those who have unhappy childhood or abused ...it's the way to let them feel safe and protected. As soon as the 1st killer did this, he quickly stole others people's attention, then another person appears and take this " responsibility".
Just Like Batman, It's a symbol of Justice and Fear...Red John can be a symbol of Injustice. Red John can be few people which shares the same identity to kill.
(This is just my personal Opinion)
I am absolutely sure that Patrick Jane is Red John.You know maybe it is far from to be true but it is true .I have sorted out many events and causes and reached this result but I did not find out the motive and it is because of the information lack of R.J's past .I assure you there will be more in season 5 .Did you ever noticed that there is a huge messed up when the case is about R.J ?Remember red john's foot steps episode ?Please notice to the last part and ask yourself these:
Why there is an officer with Jane and Lisbon when they are talking apparently alone(after arresting Sheriff Hardy)?
Why there is (maybe the same)an officer near Sheriff Hardy's litter?
Why Jane has a shotgun pointed at Sheriff Hardy's body at the same time that he got rid of hand Coffs?
I will answer :
1.Jane hypnotized the officer to be near the Sheriff Hardy's litter with a gun positioned to be very easy to catch by third person (Sheriff Hardy) .
2.Jane needed to kill Sheriff Hardy in his very clever way .Sheriff Hardy's real identity will come to light very soon because of Rosalind Harker's information and as you watched Cho and Rigsby found out .
3.Whole story of joining Jane to CBI is to remove R.J's footsteps .He knew what Sheriff Hardy will try to do(Because he told him so and put hand Coffs key to his pocket) and when exactly it happens , so he got himself ready to act .
And finally notice to the last seconds of Sheriff Hardy when he saw Jane he called him Red John and passed away .
The hole story is about to cleaning R.J foot steps .At season 2 you witnessed that Jane put a microphone under the Basco's table and when Basco called to tell him about R.J's mistakes and new evidences , he already knew about R.J(himself) mistakes .So he hypnotized the secretary and the rest of story happened as he planned .
There is a lot of reasons .Why RJ likes piano ?You may remember that scene Jane's wife and daughter sat at the piano and playing a note(I'm not sure about the music if that music and the music which played when Jane found agent Hicks body are the same ?Please someone check that for me but if that was true where the hell R.J could know about that??!!)
I am curious what happens when the truth come to light and what Jane will do and how CBI solves this situation ?!!!
Just remember the only reason that R.J joined the CBI is to removing his footsteps and make himself impossible to be caught so he can start a new life .
Please share your guess by commenting .
to pick out of everyone of who i think RJ right now im sticking to Cho other then Rigsby or someone else why i think Cho is RJ is because i was rewatching the Pilot a few days ago and i noticed that when they were in the hotel and Patrick as given the note from RJ. flash ahead a few minutes and the rest of the team is in his room except Cho it is along shot guess
i also dissagree with it being Patirck Jane maybe he has an evil twin
and Rigsby just because he has the face to be a serial killer
Red John is Patrick Jane. Think of the episode where Luther Wainwright did a psychopathy test on Patrick Jane and according the score Jane was considered a Clinical Psychopath. That was put on the show for a reason and we all know what happened to Wainwright on the last episode of season 4. Also if you remember the episode to where Bret Stiles meant up with Jane and gave him the note that lead to Kristina Fryes location and Patrick Jane asked Bret how he knew about Red John and Bret would not give Jane an answer. This is because Bret has Jane somehow figured out and Jane knows this, but the only thing keeping Bret safe from Red John is his status and willingness to say nothing else about it. I think Jane knows deep inside that he is a psychopath and has multi personality disorder and to convince himself he's not he will stop at nothing to hunt for Red John to later find out its been him all along.