Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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some people here have watched DEXTER too much,,

in the mentalist there is no such thing as forensic serial killer guys, please.

Partridge is dead guys dead and buried.

you think we'll have resurrection on Christmas??

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This probably isn't what will happen, but I thought it was a fun theory:

What if Brett Partridge WAS Red John, and the Tyger Tyger group killed him before Patrick could get to him?

This would lead to more seasons of "The Mentalist" because then Patrick could shift his focus from Red John, to taking down the secret organization in law enforcement that denied him of his revenge against RJ.

It's a long shot, but I thought it was a fun theory

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Here is an addition to my theory (#7883), that Bob Kirkland is Red John.

In the meanwhile I got a good question about my theory from my girlfriend: "Ok, your theory sounds good, but how do you explain, that Bruno Heller said, that we have already seen Red John til the end of season 3, but Bob Kirklands first appearence was in season 4?"

Now I found an answer to this question, which not only answers this question, but also some more questions, which were still unsolved:
- how could Red John know, that Patrick Jane will be at the mall in 3x24?
- how could Bruno Heller say, that we will see Red Johns face in final episode of season 3, but then it turned out, that it was a fake-Red John. Was he lying?
- why did Patrick Jane in season 4, when he meets Bob Kirkland for the first time in the office says: "do I know you?"

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We learnt from Hightower in season 6, that Bob Kirkland was informed on a regular basis about Patrick Jane by the Chiefs of CBI, at that time that was Bertram. So he knew it from Bertram. That setting makes it possible for Kirkland, to show up at the mall, without making Bertram skeptical. In 6x24 at 34:39 you can see a man in a red pullover, who looks very similiar to Bob Kirkland. He is seated between Patrick Jane and the fake Red John. And what is interesting, at 35:14, exactly at the moment, when Patrick Jane walks in direction to the fake Red John, this man in the red pullover, stands up and leaves his table very quickly, even without paying. But Patrick sees his face just for a fraction of a second. That would explain, why later in season 4, when he sees Bob Kirkland for the first time in the office, Patrick asks him "do I know you?". That fraction of a second was too short to remember him, but it was enough for a mastermind like him to have a feeling of remembering. A nice clue from Bruno Heller to the audience. It is also interesting, that this man in the red pullover, who left the table so quickly, is later seen in two szenes in the background. Maybe this could be interpreted as the waldo szenes, that Bruno Heller was refering lately.

So, that all explains, why Heller can say without lying, that we saw Red John til the end of season 3, that we saw Red Johns face in the final episode of season 3 and that he was at the mall. Everything he said was true, and it was very good covered by the fake-Red John storyline.

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Haffner fans and other people mocking Partridge fans..; the show would be so much more exciting and surprising if it was Partridge in the end!!! 

Unfortunately I have very little hope that it's him purely because Jack Plotnick said so..

But it would be so much more satisfying if it's him, than any of the other boring suspects! (except the sheriff or Stiles, they are the only ones I can accept after Partridge..Everyone else is hugely disappointing including the ridiculous non-list suspects that people have come up with..)

Go Partridge, sheriff or Stiles!!! :)




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Theory #7940 • By guesswho
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Well, by now my guess would be Red John is Smith, because (if they're not kidding us) he is more likely to have a tattoo... also I think he is a very good actor (seen in s06e04) and an unknown and unratable variable...
BUT on the other side I'd accuse BERTRAM , because in the previous seasons he sometimes made strange phone calls, which were pretty suspicious, and Bruno Heller never told us more about it. Altough Jane helps him with playing poker, it could be just some kind of cover.
My THIRD theory would be, that RJ is someone from Lisbon's team... but that would fuck with everybody's head... so I hope this one's nonsense.
Greetz, Fabian from Austria

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Theory #7938 • By Basics19__
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I think Tereza is one of Tyger Tyger ,that is why Partridge told her Tyger Tyger
RJ learns about the list from Tereza ,I want to still say RJ from out of list but there is to much pressure from other people in this site that he is some one in the list,if some one it should be haffner.

I think Tereza is one of Tyger Tyger  Because Kirkland's dead was something very important, but she never surprised ,she just pretend to be..and she did not call and let Jane know about it, because it was something Tereza already know about it before she heard it from Rigsby. 

Also Tereza did not mention to Jane about Haffner's visit her on hospital ,why does Tereza Lisbon keep some information and does not tell to Jane? 





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Seriously, when I try and explain to people how Brett Partridge is Redjohn, and they start linking interviews, its ridiculous. "Brett Partridge is dead." What, are you 3 years old? You must be if you think that discounts him from being Redjohn. I'll try once more.

Brett Partridge is the name he made for himself when he became head of Tiger, Tiger. He kills that alias, to become, just Redjohn. 

Brett = Son of Bret
Partridge = William Blake fan

Now I know how Patrick Jane felt when Teresa told the team about RJ suspects, and tracked them. Its the people that are really out of their depth that say "Brett Partridge is dead, you're delusional."

For those that say "It's unoriginal," I can respect that. But a lot of people knew Brett Partridge is Redjohn since season 1. He was the main suspect for all 6 seasons in viewer's eyes, bar the time when Timothy Carter was presumed to be Redjohn. Bruno needed to sacrifice originality to bring some surprise back. The backstory is absolutely immense, tracing back to Jane's days in the carnival! Here's a taste. Rosalynd Harker is the dying girl Patrick conned with his father, but there's waaay waaay more!  He can sacrifice originality, because the backstory contains information from EVERY SINGLE SEASON. *Can almost hear a hater chanting "Doi, How'd yoo know"* It's so cleverly done, its a masterpiece. For those that are still peed, who cares, you wouldn't understand most of it anyway? Millions of people will love it.

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