I have just come across a youtube video with a very important clue. I implore you to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJvvsNMwCw
I have just come across a youtube video with a very important clue. I implore you to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJvvsNMwCw
who said Red John correctly guessed the list of 7 ? Jane is just going along with Red John cause he knows who he is ... just like most episodes we the audience are guessing based on the facts presented and at the end Jane reveals who the killer is with some sort of deduction Jane is just using Red John's list of 7 to get closer and btw one of Lisbon's team is workin for Red John ... most likley Van Pelt she was the only one added to the team after Jane
I've always thought it would be Brett Stiles but this theory does make sense too!! There are 5 remaining suspects assuming the 2 dead ones are really dead, and I do believe they are dead. Here's my take on the remaining 5.
Assuming Rosalind is correct in her descriptions of Roy Tagliaferro obviously Bertram and Reed are out. I don't think it necessarily excludes Brett as age would be a bit difficult to gauge being blind. We have to assume that Red John is both intelligent and powerful. The Sheriff played dumb in the first episode and was overly clever in his last episode, I imagine he's somewhere in the middle, but he doesn't have the power or influence to be RJ. Bertram fits the power and intelligence mold, and also likes to quote William Blake yet doesn't fit the physical description. Reed is neither clever nor powerful and doesn't fit the description. That leaves the two most likely suspects as being Ray Haffner and Brett Stiles. Ray I thought was a bumbling dolt in his first appearance yet has proven to be clever conniving and resourceful in his recent episodes. He certainly fits the appearance Rosalind described and seems the most physically capable suspect of carrying out the murders. I also wouldn't be shocked if he had a tattoo, where as a tattoo on Brett Stiles seems far less likely. The negatives would be an affinity for classical piano, and the fact that he seems more a follower than a leader. I can't imagine him being smart enough to match wits with Jane, let alone be a top of the "Tiger Tiger" power pyramid!! The last thing is he doesn't have the same talent for reading people like Jane does, which makes it doubtful he could manipulate Jane the way RJ so masterfully has. Which brings us to Brett. Maybe this is what the Heller meant when he said fans will be disappointed, because Brett is the most obvious. He fits the Power mode better than the rest of the suspects. He clearly is the most Intelligent of the suspects. The physical is right on except for the age description by both Rosalind and Sophie. Rosalind's can be explained away by the obvious fact that she's blind, but whose to say that Sophie met the real RJ. I doubt that the real RJ would be so careless as to leave real clues in her therapy sessions. She could've been talking with Ray, on behalf of RJ. If either Brett or Ray is RJ, then it's not a coincidence, they're working together. They could be father and son, or master and student, but they're connected!! Brett is on a equal mental plane as Jane and appears more than capable of manipulating him and others. It would also explain why he knew that " Red John was planning a little surprise for Kristina Frye" and where Jane could find her. If Brett is not RJ, then he certainly knows who is and the Visualize organization is the key. It seems to mirror the Tiger Tiger organization. Lastly some final thoughts.
Lisbon did have a weird smile on her when Jane revealed the final clue (tattoo), almost like she's seen the tattoo before. If Brett and Ray are in it together, maybe Ray put the bug on Cho for RJ, and killed the girl as cleanup
For those that keep saying that Brett Partridge is dead because Bruno Heller said so, I wanted to say that you are absolutely correct. Brett Partridge IS dead and Red John is the one that killed him just like Heller said. Red John no longer needs Partridge. Truth is, Partridge never existed. Red John only created him to have access to Patrick and the case. He is now just Red John and nothing more.
So disappointing that they wrote "Gail" Bertram wrong at the beginning of last week's show..It's laughable! This is a huge show and nobody notices it?? How ridiculous!
Honestly, us fans care more about it all than the people who make it..
It seems to me that Ray Haffner is Red John, but I like the idea that Mahoney put out about RJ being a forerunner to something bigger. Could this Great Red Dragon be Tyger Tyger? Is RJ an agent of TT? If that were the case then I see a much bigger narrative enfolding than just who is Red John? That would make for a better season, and better conclusion to the series itself. This is about to get real interesting.
As for people's insistence that Haffner can't be RJ because of his behavior in 6x05, I think that does more to confirm his being RJ since it has become obvious that RJ is behind Jane which is different from the past. RJ now does not know what to do since he is behind. He is getting sloppy because Jane is finally about to get him.
Hi guys,
I have a question for you to discuss. I've read some serious theories saying that the list of seven isn't right. I'm not saying it is, but what are your arguments on the Bruno Heller statement that we can trust the list?
Why did he say that and what is the meaning?