Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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- not a theory but just wondering the last few killing by Red John Have been wierd first thing you supposed to see is the smiley face draw in blood. i cant really say i have seen any of that so far.

- in S06X05 Jason Cooper thanks Jane and Lisbon and explains that Haffner could'nt be there, and that he works for other clients besides
visualise, i dont think Red John killed her, her throat doesnt seem to slit plus lets think back he users a Tazer, and normally he ties there hands up plus where on earth is the smiley face drawn in the victims blood?

- Jane is aware its not Visualise so he automatically thinks its Red John, it could be the "Tiger Tiger" Group or maybe someone working for Red John, I dont think its Red John Himself that killer the women in that episode.

Just some of my thoughts. :)


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I hesitate between Bertram and the Sheriff.
But I think there are also clues in Blake's poem... you may find more:

Tyger! Tyger! burning bright

In the forests of the night,

What immortal hand or eye

Could frame thy fearful symmetry? --> Kirkland Twins?



In what distant deeps or skies

Burnt the fire of thine eyes?

On what wings dare he aspire?

What the hand dare sieze the fire?


And what shoulder, and what art.  --> Tatoo on his left shoulder

Could twist the sinews of thy heart?

And when thy heart began to beat,

What dread hand? & what dread feet?


What the hammer? what the chain?

In what furnace was thy brain?

What the anvil? what dread grasp

Dare its deadly terrors clasp? --> Handshake


When the stars threw down their spears,

And watered heaven with their tears,

Did he smile his work to see?  --> Smiley face after the murders

Did he who made the Lamb make thee?


Tyger! Tyger! burning bright

In the forests of the night,

What immortal hand or eye

Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?  --> Interesting... 'dare' instead of 'could'

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6.5  Has no one else realized that the investigator never, never said that Visualize was her client! Cho said it, she only agreed to get the handcuffs off. It's called leading the witness and Perry Mason would have objected.
Haffner is my vote because RJ is playing a game-- who is smarter. Only PJ has been up to the challenge. Twice RH spoke of who is smarter. Playing lesser to Stiles puts him in a position of quiet power. He may or may not actually care for Lisbon, but she is important to Jane which makes her an interesting chess piece.
I applaud the producers for the tiny clues such as doves, etc. Makes for a complicated and interesting psychology of entertainment. Thx

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Just to point out something , we all know how bruno loves anagrams and stuff , we all know theres something fishy about mcallister.. the way he tried hitting on van pelt , as you all know there are 7 deadly sins , one of them is LUST , the way of death for the person commiting this sin is to be burned with fire and brimstone , now couldcallister be a rapist or something , I have nooo idea haha anyways let me know what you guys think :))

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I'm going to shoot somebodys balls off if we see a shirtless Reede smith next episode.

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I'm following this process of elimination...

1) Brett Stiles - Can't be him.  He would have been recognized at the Ellison Farms.  He doesn't fit the some young kid moniker used during the Ellison Farms episode.
2) Bob Kirkland - He is hunting RJ.  He is also dead now.
3) Bertram - The conversation with Reede Smith gave the impression that Reed is over Betram.  If he was Red John Reede would never speak to him like that.  I do feel he is part of Tiger Tiger though.

4) Thomas McAlister - I feel he is too old to meet the young kid reference made for the Ellison Farms - Couldn't find a reference to his age so perhaps I'm wrong.

Improbables:

5) Brett Partridge - He's dead.. Although I do wonder if he didn't fake his death to throw PJ off.  He is really my #2 choice.  I feel his voice fits RJ's voice much better than anyone elses.

That leaves Reede Smith and Ray Haffner.

I think Reede Smith is just a member of Tiger Tiger.

I'm going with Haffner as RJ.  He is a member of visualize.  He wouldn't answer the question about if he was at the Ellison Farms.  He was involved with the case where the PI got killed.. There was a reference made to he had other business to attend to that night.  He likes TL which is perhaps why he didn't kill her and just painted a face on her.  He has easy access to CBI, contacts, etc to keep up to date on the teams progress, etc.


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Please stop lisbon rigsby patrick etc... theorys.
Lorelei told patrick that john and he are not friends. She wonder: " i dont know how you did not make friends when you shaked hands". They are NOT friends.
Red john probably is in the pilot. Maybe brett? Dont know. But see first minute on the pilot. Patrick is watching a tatoo in a forensic worker's arm very intrigated, that never backs on show and will be irrelevant in the pilot. Strange.... right...

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