http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5rLXwjuY0Y
All we have to do is wait for the series to reveal to us a name . . .
If a name has been given, can anyone post it? I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
Good luck, and happy hunting!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5rLXwjuY0Y
All we have to do is wait for the series to reveal to us a name . . .
If a name has been given, can anyone post it? I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
Good luck, and happy hunting!
This is not a theory, but rather a ratification for one of the most confusing clues about Red John's identity - 'He is Mar', from episode "Red John's Friends", season 1.
I recently found a website that appears to have many TV show scripts - http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk. It seemed weird to me that a random website could have access to that, but I looked for different scripts from different TV shows, and they're, without doubt, legit.
Anyway, back to Red John. Take a look at the script from Red John's Friends: http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Mentalist/The_Mentalist_1x11_-_Red_John's_Friends.pdf
In Act 4 (final part), you'll find this:
Jared's finger still reaches out to the wall above the bath, where he's written, in blood - 'HE IS MA.'
This clarifies 2 things that, at least for me, were confusing and generated different theories and points of view:
1) It was Jared and not the Mexican hooker who wrote the message on the wall. I've read many fan theories that state Jared could have told the hooker what to write before he died. Some said that he could have told her to write the name 'Ellis Mars' (the psychic from Red Moon, also found in Jane's List of Suspects) on the wall (that sounds like 'Él es Mars' in Spanish, which means 'He is Mars'), which made him a primary suspect for this particular clue.
So, since Jared wrote it, it's definitely something we should look into, right? He was Tanner's cellmate and claimed to have info on RJ.
'I have dynamite information about Red John. Enough to catch him.'
Did he, whoever, know who Red John was? Or did he know where to find him?
If he actually knew who he was, then he'd most likely have written his name on the wall for the CBI to find him. He's not going to try to play games with them in his last seconds alive, is he?
If he didn't, then he probably wrote something about RJ that could describe him.
Lisbon: 'Jared was trying tell us something important.'
Many fans think that he wanted to write 'He is married'. That'd make sense, since RJ wears a ring in his left hand, as seen in season 4.
2) The script says that 'HE IS MA.' was what should be written on the wall. In the episode, though, there IS something next to 'Ma'. An r? An h?
What does it mean? I have no idea. But I really hope we do find out eventually.
Keep the theories coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1F2GdLLoWA
plausible ?!
I have no idea who Red John could be but here are some observations: In the final episode of season 2, we see the smiley face on the wall in Rosalind Harker's house. After carrying out a murder, Red John generally draws the face on the wall using his victim's blood. He didn't murder Rosalind Harker and as far as we know did not murder anyone in her house (unless I missed something!). If this is the case, whose blood did he use to draw the smiley on the wall? If Roy Tagliaferro (who may nor may not be a red herring!) stayed in the house on and off for five months, then his fingerprints and other DNA must be in the house and also on the mail box. We don't know if this was checked. If so, we would know if he worked for a government agency, CBI, FBI, etc. or not. In any event, after this RT's fingerprints at least would be on file. In seanson 4, episode 7, PJ set up Panzer to criticize RJ on TV knowing that RJ would seek revenge on Panzer and probably kill him. Why then, did the CBI not track Panzer to catch RJ? In the last episode of season 4, PJ is watching an animal documentary on TV in the motel room with Lorelei. At one stage, the lioness caught a zebra and Lorelei had to avert her eyes from the screen. Does it seem logical that someone who is too squeamish to watch an animal attack another on TV would be capable of trying to chop PJ's fingers off with a shears a day or two later? In another episode of season 4, they eliminated another murder suspect when it turned out he couldn't stand the sight of blood. The animal documentary (predator hunting prey) seems to be a recurring theme throughout the series. In the very first episode, PJ is watching a similar documentary in his hotel room. Also, Lisbon did not seem that scared on hearing the Red John wanted her dead. Even if she knew that PJ would not harm her, is it logical to believe that she would have taken the risk of going into the desert without adequate backup knowing that Red John would be there and wanted her dead? Would an experienced agent like Cho would have let her do this? A stickler for the rules such as Cho would have known that this would have been against procedures. In any other crime show, they would have been accompanied by a SWAT team, helicopters, cars, etc. Does this mean they knew it wasn't a real trap? Or was it a delusion/hallucination? Later on, when Lorelei is in the interrogation room, PJ goes over to her, puts his hands on her shoulders and kisses the top of her head. Apart from being a highly questionable gesture as Lorelei is now a suspect, would it be logical for PJ or any normal person to kiss somebody who has just tried to maim him (even if they had been in a relationship!). It seems to me that he either used this gesture to hypnotise her or to dehypnotise her if she had already been hypnotised. I believe he hypnotised her in the motel room to have her believe that she was working for RJ (PJ's smile as he closed the door when she left) so that PJ could have the CBI (for whatever reason!) think that she had lured him into the desert on behalf of RJ. However, the plan went wrong. Lisbon and her team got arrested and were delayed and Wainright got shot. PJ then had to dehypnotise Lorelei in the interrogation room so that she wouldn't talk. Time and time again, completely logical procedures such as tracking and fingerprinting are omitted from investigations. If the writers left such glaring omissions in the scenario, then it was obviously done on purpose. Are we really watching a real murder investigation or is the investigation a metaphor for something else? It is also possible that PJ's couch represents a mental institution or a psychiatrist's couch and a certain amount of the story is happening in his head. Assuming that they are really searching for a serial killer: I don't believe that Lorelei is RJ. I believe that she is a means to and end for PJ. However, it shows us the PJ is capable of using hypnosis or another type of manipulation to transform into a potential killer a person who would otherwise not be violent. If she could maim him then she could have also killed him. Given this, I believe that RJ could have been created/manipulated by PJ during his days as a psychic/hypnotist. Something went wrong and PJ does not know the identity of the killer/RJ. I believe that PJ is not RJ but PJ has something to hide. The CBI does not know this part and this is the reason that PJ wants to catch RJ himself so they won't find out the part PJ played. Maybe this is why the FBI are suspicious. I also believe that the Tyger Tyger poem as well as dealing with good and evil also deals with the predator/prey theme as in the documentaries. PJ started out as a tiger/predator/manipulating people (RJ?) (lambs) and is now a lamb/prey/manipulated by RJ. I think it is also certain that the writers would not run the risk of having the viewers become attached to any of the main cast members over several seasons and then reveal one of them to be a serial killer who murdered a child in cold blood. RJ is either a minor character or somebody we have not yet seen and could also be a woman. Brett Stiles would seem to be the most likely suspect but I think that would be way too obvious. However I believe that he knows the identity of Red John and probably Kristina Frye also knows if she ever come out of the coma.
Robert kirkland , he is in the first series wanting jane to work with the CBI, now he is bk again. High up enough to no everything that is going on as well
I don't think that homeland guy Kirkland is Red John because whem they shook hands Lorelei was in prision so there is no way she would know that. And its clear Patrick Jane himself is not the Red John. Red John has appeared in one occasion in front of Patrick. And Lorelei said that Patrick and Red John have met but they are not friends. So we can eliminate more people. But people like Mineli and Mashburn are neutrals but RJ is in 30s so it cant be Mineli. Brett Partridge has soft voice like Red John but I haven't seen him shook hands with Patrick. But they might not have telecasted both guys shaking hands who knows. If anyone has watched Sherlock you will realize something we never has guessed this guy as RJ. Because when we saw Jim Moriarty at first time we never saw that coming. So Bruno Heller should have planned the exact same thing. In the phone conversation between Jane and Red John they used Simon Bakers soft voice for Red John so we can't compare voices anymore like we did with Brett Partridge voice. And I strictly believe Patrick Jane isn't Red John and it's very hard to even guess that would happen. My final pick is Bret Stiles. I don't think that guy has guts to kill a rat even. So no way Bret Stiles have taken lives of 30 victims. And Kristina Frye is a woman. So my point is we know 106 episodes of mentalist have been telecasted. With how many people in those episodes has Jane shaken his hands with? It's hard to count. Red John can be any of them. We still don't have enough evidence to point out who the real Red John is. But I'm pretty sure it's not Patrick Jane
No-one liked o'laughlin very much. He seemed annoying and everyone hated how he "stole" van pelt from rigsby. So what does bruno heller do? He makes o'laughlin the fbi mole who gets killed at the end of season 3, much to everyone's delight.
So with that in mind, you can see why bertram has to be red john. He is for sure the most annoying character now that o'laughlin has gone. Type in "gale bertram" into youtube and click on the second option "forget about jane". Gale bertram is red john because:
1) He is annoying, so it will be a satisfying finish for the audience if he was red john and killed by jane at the end of the series.
2) He is powerful, being the cbi director.
3) Although he doesn't fit the description of red john by rosalind harker, the man she was describing was likely an accomplice, a profile bruno heller used to throw us off from the real red john - bertram.
4) He both hates and admires jane at the same time, which fits the character of red john.
5) I am usually successful at making predictions with crime shows, so if i say red john is gale bertram then he probably is red john.