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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I swear to God. If it's Reede Smith I will never be the same again. He isn't just right. It's just wrong. It's sad going down this path. 

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Okay, I am not actually accusing Lisbon of being Red John. (Not that you should rule it out just yet at this point).


{[(SPOILERS dead ahead)]}

With all the people on the list acting so suspicious to the point that it is obnoxious, all the main characters are drowning. However, in this most recent episode, Lisbon seemed a little off. Like, for example, how much she freaked out over Jane being in danger. What danger? He may be in trouble afterward, but in peril? Naw!

So, this poses some questions:
Does Lisbon know something Jane doesn't?
Is Lisbon Red John (or Jane)?
Does Lisbon think she knows who Red John is?
Did she think that Jane was bringing in false Red Johns and the real Red John would attack?
Why was she so insistent on being there and when she wasn't, suddenly, he was in danger (even though she already told Jane she would let him kill Red John, so it has nothing to do with him being in trouble afterward)?
Would her being there stop Red John from attacking?
Who cares that much for Lisbon? Haffner (former CBI who helplessly flirts with her)? Sam Bosco (her former partner in crime)? Mashburn (her one night stand)? Who? Who?? Who???
And why all of a sudden is she okay with Jane killing Red John and not going to stop him?
Is it because it became personal for her, too? A woman's scorn? Revenge???
What made her change? It didn't happen in this episode. Was it the last? Was it the tattoo?
Who's arm has she seen? Mashburn's? Bosco's?
Is Bret Patridge still alive??? No, he's dead. If he's Red John, then Red John's a zombie and you're watching the wrong how.
Ehem, anywho...How did Lisbon know where Jane would go? A hunch? She seemed certain. Did he tell her and we didn't see? Or is Lisbon Red John? Did Lisbon plant the bomb? Did she need to be there to get Jane out, kill all his suspects, and have him realize he's was never close when Red John strikes again?
Is Red John a mass of people and not just one person?
Is Tiger Tiger a mass of low-level cops who do the dirty work? Are they after Red John, too?
Did Kirkland know too much?
Why did Kirkland kill that Red John affiliate in the hospital and say that he'd be honored to die for this too and hopes someday someone would do the same for him were he in this situation? Why does everyone forget that?
Did Kirkland once work for Red John, but no more (before dying of course)?
Is Kirkland a zombie, too? Wait, wrong show again.
Ehem, anywho...Why was Lisbon so calm in the car, driving to the meeting place for knight of the red table?


Welp, I for one, do not believe Lisbon is Red John, but it seems she knows something. She seemed to calm and unsettled at the same time. I've never seen Lisbon act like this before. Perhaps, she is conflicted...

It seems, due to the tattoo, and basing off of the list, the remaining three suspects are: Reede Smith, Thomas McAllister, and Gale Bertram.

Let me eliminate all three of those. Remember when the guy they got out of prison and he ran from them. He died, while he was with a woman. He wrote in blood on the wall: "He is Ma". There is another letter after the "a," however, it is either illegible, incomplete, or smudged.

The three remaining suspects initials are: RS, TM, and GB. No MA there. The first two letters of the first and last names are: Re, Sm, Th, Mc, Ga, and Be. No Ma there, either. The last two letters of the first and last names backwards are: Ed, Ht, Sa, Re, El, and Ma.... Welp, there is one Ma. It's a stretch, but if the guy was planning on writing backwards and considering the next letter most resembled an S or an R, it could work: Martreb Elag. Only way to get "He is Ma" out of any of the list.

Personally, I think Bertram is a no because he reports to someone and RED JOHN REPORTS TO NO ONE!!! RED JOHN IS THE REPORTEE, NOT THE REPORTER!!!

I think Smith does not fit the build of Red John as seen in past seasons.

I think McAllister is eliminated because of the "He is Ma" thing unless McAllister was the clue, but that's a little far stretched, as well. Plus, I'm not sure Red John would deny he was Red John because it was practically begging for his life.

So, I think the list of seven is not a list of true suspects, but a list of characters who are going to die. Once they are dead, Red John (who has promised to kill and has yet to aside from the girl last episode who had information) will kill someone to say "Hey, I'm still here" just like he did after Jane killed the Strawberries and Cream dude who said he was Red John when in fact, he was not.

The question is, is does Jane know that the list is wrong? Does it just mean that he discovered some of Red John's biggest allies? Is that why Red John was so pissed? If Jane knows, this could all have been an act, a rouse. Red John is out there and still needs to be fooled, but who is Red John?

Jane has his list, I have mine:
Walter Mashburn
Michael Washburn

Which one could it be...? ;)

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       Why Red John killed Brett Partridge ?
       
        Either he is hunting that Tyger Tyger group or he's messing with Patrick. I think tyger tyger group has nothing to do with Red John. If Red John was one of them, he wouldn't kill group members because it would make Patrick get him closer. It's so hard to understand tho. Makes no sense and they cut that part there. We still don't know why Partridge is killed. 
  
        I think Patrick killed wrong people. I guess RJ is Ray Haffner and his mentor is Stiles. This would be disappointing but Heller already told we will disappoint when we figure it out. Tell me if im wrong when Patrick told about tattoo it was Ray who take his shirt off. Like he felt relieved. 
   
       Why they only show us Brett Stiles coming in a mysterious way ? They fucking with us ? I've tons of questions.
    
      And if anyone has episode 7 promo, because i couldn't found it. Thanks for reading tho

     
      
  

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Theory #8814 • By redjohn/vanpet
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Red John is Van Pelt and Tiger Tiger are just a bunch of followers who havent even met Red John in person yet. You must realize how much Van Pelt face is specifically shown to show how she feels. Van Pelt used to be a man. Finkle is Einhorn!! But seriously its nobody on the list. I use to think it was Styles but I think he is too pre-occupied to be Red John and as weird as this sounds, Red John is a weirdo and Styles just runs a bunch of weirdos. IF YOU WATCH THE PILOT EPISODE, YOU WILL KNOW VAN PELT IS RED JOHN. ALSO SHE HAD A ACCENT IN EP 1 AND SEEMED VERY MAD AT PATRICK CALLING HIM GODLESS IN A BRITISH LIKE ACCENT. WATCH IT AGAIN AND YOU SHALL SEE. 

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Now the list is down to three. Everyone knows that RJ is now a tyger tyger member. But who could Red John be? I guess many of us would believe it to be either Bertram or Mcallister. Very few would think Smith to be Red John. Why, because there is little or no proof to say Smith is Red John. All the clues from Sophie miller and Rosalind Harker prove Smith is not RJ, except for one. Smith has fear of heights. Now everyone would be really disappointed if Smith was RJ. He does not look like one. If there were no clues by Harker or Rosalind, then I would have thought he might be RJ. RJ could be either Mcallister or Bertram. But one question remains, did anyone know about who Red John was in the tyger tyger community. I believe it was Smith who really killed that woman. Let us wait and see who RJ would be. If it is Smith, then I would have to say that all of Heller's clues were wrong and he is nothing more than a sloppy writer.

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Rerun issue was never resolved in NYC. Even though we waited an extra hour ,we got the episode where Rigsby's father dies! After being a fan of this show for over five years I am very disappointed! CBS people in NYC dropped the ball big time! When I called them they had the audacity to say that everybody else was getting the rerun. However, that is clearly not true from these post, where others have watched the new episode.

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6.07 Promo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0H_4nEJ0dA

Down to the final 3 suspects!


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