Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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There's no reason to believe that any of the descriptive evidence that we've seen so far is accurate.

Why? Because all of it is based on the assumption that the person described was actually Red John. The thing is, we've never actually seen Red John do anything at all. We've seen his disciples do a number of things on his behalf; what makes any of the situations that brought us the "clues" that we have any different?

Let's not forget that Jane killed a fake Red John already. The imposter was so convincing - from the details of Jane's family's murder to the call from O'Laughlin's phone - that Jane shot him, actually thinking in the moment that he had Red John in front of him.

So, doesn't that call into question everything from the relationship with Rosalind Harker to the three dot tattoos? And since we now know that more than one character has the three dots, doesn't that suggest that a disciple, and not necessarily Red John, hired the detective? What evidence do we have that it was Red John that personally sought the information about Jane from his doctor?

Incidentally, the detective and the doctor both ended up murdered (or left for dead in the case of the detective), but they weren't killed in typical Red John fashion. One beaten, one beheaded - no smiley faces. They were killed, like so many others, rather unceremoniously - just like everyone that could have provided information about Red John and his organization.

For the sake of keeping it simple - Red John runs a vast, well-connected cult, Bret Stiles runs Visualize, a vast, well-connected cult. it's not really a heavy lift.

In case that's not enough, here's a few more reasons why Stiles is the most logic suspect:
- It doesn't make much sense for Red John to punch a clock. A day job means responsibilities and obligations that would be unavoidable. With a legion of followers to command and a lot of fairly complex projects in the works, regular employment doesn't seem viable.
- Visualize has the means and resources to easily assemble a vast network of insiders throughout all levels of law enforcement, from local, to state, to federal. A member of any single law enforcement agency would have far too stunted a reach to recruit in the other agencies.
- Kirkland's brother apparently got help with his drinking from Red John; Visualize is a self help-esque organization that specializes is things like that.
- according to Haffner, Stiles has Visualize members study Jane (suggesting that he has some kind of psychological insight), which raises the question of what they're being taught and how that information was gained (for example, might he have gleaned some information from Jane's psychiatrist?).
- the episode that Stiles and Visualize are introduced in was called "Red All Over" (probably the least persuasive argument, but possibly suggestive).

and lastly, but in some respects most importantly:
- Malcolm McDowell is a legend. If you created a show that was to culminate in the revelation of a mastermind, serial killer after several years of close calls and red herrings, wouldn't you jump at the chance to make that killer be the guy from A Clockwork Orange?

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Just saw a very interesting image from the extended promo for The Great Red Dragon.

Rigsby is informing someone about the incident at Jane's house (the explosion) and he says:

"Red John brought in the bomb to kill Jane and the other suspects."

While he is saying this...images of 3 of the suspects are pinned to the board: McAllister, Haffner, and Stiles. This insinuates that either all 3 of these men were killed in the blast and Bertram and Smith are the remaining suspects (unlikely) or Bertram and Smith were killed in the explosion and McAllister, Haffner, and Stiles are the remaining suspects (more likely.)

I still think it's Partridge, but just wanted to throw that info out there for you guys:)

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Theory #8849 • By TheBadWolf0
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Whoa, huge mistake, CBS!

Tonight after the rerun they showed the teaser for episode 6x08 instead of 6x07... And they show you the final 3 suspects! That's horrible! Now I know which 2 get killed.

Grr.

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Theory #8845 • By shree5910
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Well now i am sure its Gale. Keep your enemies closure, thats what Gale did to PJ. I think some how he used Brett Partridge to do murders and that why he killed him first. Thats why all the evidence pointed towards Brett. Also, being head of CBI he has all the resources.

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Theory #8846 • By AndreeRibeiro
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RJ is twin brother of kirkland. In one episode he asked a man in a bed of a hospital if he recognize him and next kill the guy. The guy who was killed was Bob, but the real RJ is Michael Kirkland. 

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What if...bear with me... what if there is no "Red John". First of all, they said that the unveiling of Red John would be surprising. If Bertram were to be Red John, that would not be surprisng at all, and if reed smithe or mcallister were to be red john, that would just be plain boring and uneventful. Honestly, who here is scared of reed smite. Red John is envisioned to be scary, not someone like Reede Smith. 

I think Red John is not one single person, but a whole group of people: an organization of people who go by the code word tiger tiger. They kill people and blame it on this fictional Red John character, but there is no one man actually called Red John. Thats just my two cents.

Perhaps, there used to be a real Red John, but he died a long time ago, and now this tiger group is posing as Red John. But, as of now, I dont believe Red John can be attributed to one single man.

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Theory #8838 • By Seuriu8
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Sigh. They are showing a rerun here too. Does anyone have a good safe download link? The ones I've tried from below were blocked by avast

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