Correct me if I'm wrong, i had skipped a few episodes but i can recall that Red John's accomplices had a small red marble to help them identify each other?
Not tyger tyger nor a tattoo.
just saying
Correct me if I'm wrong, i had skipped a few episodes but i can recall that Red John's accomplices had a small red marble to help them identify each other?
Not tyger tyger nor a tattoo.
just saying
It's all one big misdirection. We are not down to 3 suspects. Red John isn't Reede, McAllister or Stiles.
What If the entire Tyger Tyger group is Red John. Hear me out.
The Tygers commit crimes and make it seem as if a fictional person named Red John commits these crimes. No one could of course catch this killer as he doesn't exist. It's just the entire group of Tyger Tyger.
It's a group so there will be accomplices, allies, people to do the dirty work for them.
+Other: Jane is going completely off and thinking RJ is part of Tyger Tyger so next episode is looking for RJ within the Tygers because he believes RJ is part of them and should have a tattoo.
The person who killed Kyra with the tattoo was not RJ. RJ wouldn't do anything like that, we just believe what is fed to us which is that that person was RJ.
Bruno Heller said there would be a big clue in the premiere episode, "Desert Rose". Here is my thought. When Red John paints Lisbon's face with a smiley, there is something off about the smiley. Normally, the eyes are almost horizontal on every Red John smiley, but on Lisbon, the eyes are vertical. In "Fire and Brimstone", Stiles paints one of his lady followers' face with vertical lines of blood across her eyes. To me, that seals the deal. RJ has witnessed a ceremony like this before and is copying the ritual on Lisbon. Haffner is a disciple of Stiles and would have seen one of his rituals. Also, this ritual was about rebirth. Haffner didn't want to hurt or kill Lisbon, so he performed this rebirth ritual on her.
I think the tattoos are a red herring. This "tyger, tyger" organization may have nothing to do with Red John at all. Or, they may be his followers, but why would the leader of such an organization wear such a mark? I don't think it would be necessary or very smart to give himself such a mark. Better to leave no trace of association.
Is this what I think it is? The promo for the Great Red Dragon? Do you think CBS played this accidentally because they changed the episode last minute?
http://youtu.be/2QUhKlre7JA
ps sorry for the video quality...
It looks like it shows "Tom," Reede Smith, and Bertram as the last 3 suspects.
After tonights episode, I am convinced that none of the 5 in the room were RJ. All that was proven tonight was that 3 of the 5 are members of RJ's organization. We have known for years that he had many followers and this comes as no surprise.
I am still convinced that Brett Partridge faked his death and is RJ, but a small part of me feels like it could be Bob Kirkland's twin brother Michael. Either one would be better than any of the 5 that were in the room. Whoever it is, I believe Patrick met them many many years ago when he was still in the carnival circuit. Red John is almost certainly, a Carney also.
There are two option now: RJ is in TT brotherhood or he isn't.
If RJ is in TT organization, sheriff McAllister is best fitted as a suspect. Even the writing on wall "He is mar" could came from "He is marshal". He is of the right age, weight, posture etc.
If RJ isn't form TT organization, then only Haffner remain. Stiles said once to Patrick he knows more then he (Patrick) or RJ could imagine, so he spoke about RJ as a third person.
My bet remains on Haffner.
PS: "Fire and Brimstone" has been the worst episode of the mentalist till now. Nothing happened for real in it besides Patrick gathering the suspects.
My Top 7 Red John Suspects:
#1 Brett Partridge
#2 Sheriff Thomas McAllister
#3 Ray Haffner
#4 Reed Smith
#5 Gale Bertram
#6 Brett Stiles
#7 Bob Kirkland
Brett Partridge is Red John:
The reason I still think that its Brett Partridge is because he fits the description, age, height and body shape. Brett Partridge definitely would have the 3 dots on his shoulder because he is also a part of the Tyger Tyger organisation.
Brett Partridge has short hair and odd voice.
The actor playing Brett Partridge is 45 years old.
In 1988 he would be 20 years old.
Brett Partridge is just under 6 feet tall.
He is 5'11.
Brett Partridge would definitely have the three dot tattoo on his left shoulder as he is a part of Tyger Tyger organisation. He says to lisbon 'Tyger Tyger'.
The Reason Brett Partridge has to die is because he did not want Patrick to suspect him.
Bruno Heller says that Brett Partridge is definitely dead. Of course he is dead, there is no more Brett Partridge, there is only Red John.
Brett Partridge being Red John would have the surprise element in the storyline. A person who people think is dead is the serial killer. Who would taught of that.
Bret Stiles is dying, him being Red John would be boring. It would make Patrick Jane killed a person who is dying.
If Brett Partridge is not Red John, I hope that its either Ray Haffner or Sheriff McAllister.
If the person who killed the PI is Red John, it means that Red John is a part of the Tyger Tyger organisation. Because the PI says he has three dots tattoo. So it must be Sheriff McAllister/Reede Smith/Gale Bertram.
If the person who killed the PI is not Red John and Red John is not a part of the Tyger Tyger Organisation. Than Ray Haffner/Brett Stiles is Red John. Because Tyger Tyger Organisation have the three dot tattoo.