Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #9224 • By knockoutKO
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I say brett partridge. But only because I know the least about him and because he is supposedly dead, so anything could happen. But I don't care about him much.

The facts I do care about:
I say that it cannot be PJ because it would take far too long, a whole season maybe, to explain how he has done it over the years.

However if pj is rj, then tiger tiger must be a separate organization not directly involved with red John. The three members from 6x6 would have given it away.

I believe that a third party will be the one who ties all the loose Ends together. It could be Patricks father or someone from his circus past. Brett partridge. VP and her past with rj. Visualize maybe. TT seems too obvious, although I could be wrong.

Until we see that third party come in, I believe we are just looking at the parts and can't have more than a guess who red John is. We are still missing too much story.

I completely disagree that it is cho because he has no background, no roots on the story, and is really not a very developed character. A flat character can't be rj, which is also why I don't believe it's any of the three tiger tiger members from 6x6.



Not pj, not cho, and not the three remaining suspects. I'm going to be pissed if red John is some kind of organization/cult and there is not a real red John.

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just a crazy thought based on Stiles opening line of his discussion with Pj at Ecuador Embassy .
Stiles; Dear Boy
Pj; I am not your boy

Could it be that B.Stiles is the biological father of both, Pj and Rj!

Things to be noted.
*Rj seems to know everything about the 7 suspects, even their fear. This explains why we see most of 'em are good whistlers, others fear of heights. He gathered all of their fears, then he fed these information to Sophie .

*Stiles big laugh when Pj said; someone in this room is Rj, indicates that; none of 'em is Rj. And please remember his words "I know so much more than you "Pj" or Red John Could ever imagine"

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I really don't have any theories who is red john but I always hope it would be bob kirkland, but now he is dead his twin would be a great choice. I really like the way the actor  played kirkland. He made kirkland into such a unique and original character. Kirkland has all the charisma, mysterious, creepy weird vibe and I'm sure his twin wouldn't be that different. I think he made a perfect red john to me compare to other 6 suspects.

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I guess the important at the will be the capacity of Jane to kill, or not, Red John. The show it's about Patrick Jane, the mentalist. They will make it about him.

Actually, Red John is like an octopus, when he needed something done he would ask one of his followers. If Red John isn't a concept, a doctrine or something like that I would say that he's someone who never appeared. Lorelei told Patrick that he shaked hands with him but she could bet wrong, she actually thought that she was dealing with Red John but the guy could just be one of the "3 dot tattoo". That way the surprise would be bigger.

My guess is that Red John is a title, like a rank. The person in charge is Red John. But the actual organization is Red John. When Patrick realizes that he will stop his desire for blood and will help Lisbon and his friends at CBI to take down the entire "tiger tiger" crap. But all I'm trying to say in my bad English is that I don't really care who Red John is (or what is). I'm more interested to stop figure this one out and enjoy...

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No one has mentioned Madeleine Hightower.

Why did she suddenly come back out of the blue? 

Why did Patick kiss her on the cheek in the previous episode? With religious references abounding, has anyone considered that Judas kissed Jesus on the cheek at the Last Supper just before betraying him?

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Bruno Heller has specifically stated that he decided who RJ would be before they even started filming the show. This comment can probably be trusted more than some of his other ones, seeing as how he didn't have any reason to lie about that at the time, but he now has reasons to lie about who RJ really is, because we're only an episode away from the reveal, and he wants to keep the audience on their toes. So if we take this comment seriously, and we also assume that the list is correct, then we can conclude:

Gale Bertram
The most likely suspect of the alleged "remaining 3," but likely not RJ. Heller wouldn't plan out, from the beginning, for RJ to be the 3rd CBI director that appears in the 3rd season of the show. That doesn't make sense. He is, however, a probable suspect for RJ's right hand man in the CBI, and obviously a member of Tyger Tyger.

Bret Stiles:
Even though he was there since relatively the beginning, and it would make sense if Heller had planned him to be RJ from the beginning, he's much too old to be RJ himself, but very likely RJ's father. He has the unlimited resources that we expect RJ to have, and he has the ability to charm and manipulate others, but he likely taught that skill to his son, RJ, as Stiles is much too old to be RJ. 

Ray Haffner
Fits everything a little too perfectly. The build, height, phobia, whistling, fondness for Lisbon... it's way too obvious. Plus, he seems as if he wants to help Lisbon + the members of her team more than harm them, which isn't how RJ would act. There isn't much that points him to even being connected to RJ, so my guess is that he's the guy that does any dirty work for Visualize. If he is connected to RJ, he's probably the "brute force" guy that gets the quick work done, i.e. killing the PI.

Reede Smith:
Doesn't make sense. He has too much of a temper, he's much too large to be RJ, and he acknowledges the fact that he's a "lower level guy". RJ is a showman, and if he was talking to someone he was about to kill, he would glorify himself in every way possible rather than saying he was a "lower level guy." He's probably a high-ranking member of Tyger Tyger that gets the brute force work done for them, and possibly RJ's main FBI informant.

Bob Kirkland
Dead. Definitely dead. But he may have talked to/left a clue for Patrick about RJ. His twin, Michael, on the other hand, is/was more than likely a RJ accomplice, if not RJ himself (provided he's alive). Some people are wondering "why did Bob kill Jason Cooper if he could identify RJ, since he's hunting him?" Well, the answer is, Bob didn't kill Cooper. Michael did. Watch the last scene of 5x18, when Kirkland and Jane are in the hospital. Jane is in Cooper's room, then Kirkland shows up and has some agents escort Jane out. Then, the shots change, and Kirkland has a different tie on. It very clearly switches from a solid red tie to a red tie striped with white and blue. Some time may have passed between those shots, we don't know. But then, Kirkland (likely Michael) goes into Cooper's room and asks him if he recognizes him. He's reassured and calm when Cooper responds with "no". He then begins injecting the poison into Cooper's IV drip, while doing it he says "It's okay, I'm here for you. I won't leave you." This could be Michael mocking what Bob said to him when they were young before Bob left Michael with their dad. Plus, according to Rosalind Harker, RJ smells of pine, nails, and earth. Michael Kirkland owns a large building in the middle of a pine forest.
I still don't think he's RJ though.

Thomas McAllister
He wouldn't be a bad RJ, and he has indeed been there since the beginning (1x02), but he seems to have a genuine desire to help Patrick catch RJ. If he were really RJ, he wouldn't want to help Patrick with catching himself, that wouldn't make any sense. Definitely a member of Tyger Tyger, but I don't think he's an accomplice of RJ.

Brett Partridge
He has been there literally from the beginning (1x01). His first line in the show is "Red John enters here". He appears to have acaraphobia, the fear of biting bugs. He fits the physical descriptions that we've been given from Rosalind + Sophie Miller. His voice is a match. He's the right age. He always suggests the opposite of the real case at a RJ crime scene. He seems loathsome and jealous of Patrick. He has a symbolic, between-the-lines connection to William Blake, the author of RJ's favorite poem, Tyger Tyger. 
What better way to get your nemesis off your trail than fake your own death?
RJ: "I'm going to start killing again, often. Until you catch me, or I catch you."
RJ is Partridge, and he will most likely reveal himself in 6x08.
He's everybody's favorite creep, a ghoul.
He's irksome.
He's Red John.

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I just can't  continue reading that PJ is RJ. No sense. Either I dont think that someone of that 7 people is Red John. Let get straight to this... Red Jonh must be someone simillar to Patrick Jane, lets say someone who has high intelligence as him, smart as him. My number one suspect is Jane's father. In some previous episodes Jane have said that he is very simillar to his dad, but as I remember his father disappeared didnt die. So jsut giving the theory but theres next one big question, why he would kill Jane's wife and daughter. However I dont that. Also from last episode I just got confused. Bertram Sheriff and Reede are having same tattoo, meanwhile Reede killed Kirkland. So one of them is Red John or they are working for RJ? I'll accuse Bertram.

Sorry for my english.

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