Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #9374 • By SazHC9606
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It's not Gale Bertram, or Bret Stiles, but most likely is a tag team made up of:
Kessie Dunninger
Hollis Dunninger
Mandy Schultz
Gangs recruited by these three

Let's look at why these three, or at least, Kessie and Hollis anyway.
Kessie Dunninger from "Redemption".
Why?
1) She has red-hair, so could well be the 'Red John' - the 'Red' part anyway.
2) She may be tag-teaming to do the Red John, she being the thinker and the 'John' being the doer [although who the John is, well, open to question)
3) There has been this theory going round on a few websites discussing The Mentalist. It makes enough sense in context.

But who could Red John's accomplices be:
1) Her dad Hollis, the 'John' of the partnership; this theory was posted on a showbiz site in the UK. 'John', if you think about it... 'John' being slang for an everyman, an average man.
2) Mandy Schultz (who apparently made a cameo during one of the episodes which had Lorelei in it) - helping Kessie plan the murder? (that theory was posted on a website few months back).
3) A small gang of people that are recruited to carry out these murders recruited by the Red John team.

It would not surprise me if Red John was a non-existent person, and just a pseudonym for a group of people, a 'house name' for a murderer if you like.

Theories about it being the CBI / FBI etc. could be debunked based on this line of reasoning; I'm surprised that the characters of Kessie and Hollis Dunninger and Mandy Schultz haven't been added to the accuse list on the site!

The motive, though, is a little fuzzier, but British fans continue to debate why.

I would be surprised to see what your comments are on this theory; it does make a bit of sense, and is widely popular with British viewers.
I am a UK viewer of the show, just for the record.

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Got this information right from my TV-Guide (early acces)
(Dont read if you don't want to know what will happen to the show!!!!!)







Part 1:
The emotions are high, The mood while shooting the reveal and death of Red John was strange and discombobulating, " says creator and ex producer Bruno Heller," There were a lot of hugs when it was over, and a champagne toast, It was really quite moving because, in a way, it felt like we were killing of an old family friend. Red John has paid for a lot of Mortgages'" 

The actor playing him says he was "stunned and flattered' when he learned that His character-one of seven final suspects-was the shows big bad. "Earning this little place in pop culture history was the last thing I ever expected," He admits" truth be told, I thought I was a red herring.




Part 2:
"There's been a thorough house cleaning in California Law enforcement as a result of the vast conspiracy led by Red John." says Heller. "Ghosts from the past will continue to play a part in the show, but it's definitely a brighter day. At first, Jane wants nothing more to do with crime solving, but-like Michael Corleone in the Godfather-he's pulled back in." 



So red john is indeed the leader of Tyger Tyger, I'm really not hoping it is Reede Smith, actually I would hate to see hem being Bertram either.


I'm still hoping for some kind of shocking and unexpected guy to be revealed as RJ but I highly doubt it......

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I've already given my theory about Stiles being Red John.. But I have just had a serious thought.....:

What if Red John has actually infiltrated the Tyger Tyger group? (Implying he could be one of the 3 with the tattoo, even though that seems way too obvious right no).. He would be able to influence, or at least get a heads up on, any line of investigation of Red John or Patrick Jane! We know Homeland Security has been investigating Patrick Jane already, so maybe Tyger Tyger is as well, and we also know that pretty much every Law Enforcement agency is investigating Red John - so if Tyger Tyger is comprised of members of all the different agencies, then between the whole group, they know everything that has been found out about the to of them - meaning if Red John has infiltrated Tyger Tyger, then he truly is one step ahead of everyone!! Just a thought...

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Might be a silly coïncidence, but when you search for partridge pigeon in Google, you get pictures of a particular Australian bird, with a very interesting face-color.

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In 6x01 in the house where partridge is killed there is a brief flashlight shine on the wall that has 666 on it. Why is this important? Bruno Heller said a clue was in that seen regarding the identity of Red John. Why is the clue 666. Becasluse each name has a number. The antichrists as well as Jesus', JFK's are all 666. When you go to a name number finder type in Red John. Red Johns number is 666. So this shows its his value. But he's not the only one. All the other characters and suspects have a different number except one. Gale Bertram's name equals 666 as well. So Red John=666=Gale Bertram therefore Red John=Gale Bertram.

It all makes sense. In season 3 they met and shook hands and Jane had a weird vibe about Bertram then in the season finale of season 3 Bruno heller promised we'd see the face of Red John. The red sweater guy and timothy carter were all red herrings. But Bertram was there with Jane and we saw his face so Bruno was hinting that Bertram is red john. Plus he magically disappeared after Jane shot carter. After he saw what jane would do to who he perceived as red john.

Ashley gable said red John is like waldo who stays in the background. Where is Bertram in the CBI? In the background or out of the shot. We'd have to look for Bertram like Waldo in the CBI to find him unlike CBI Ron who is always obvious. Waldo is difficult to find so its not him.

Around 2009 all of Red John's crimes took place in Sacramento. Where's the CBI headquarters which Bertram is head of? Sacramento. Around the time Bertram moved to Sacramento to take over for Minelli is when all the murders took place around Sacramento and the CBI. Why? Because it was where Bertram lived and was within his range.

He has the tyger tyger tattoo and Kirkland thought red john was in the tyger tyger organization.

While he's at his job his accomplices do the kills so he doesn't get caught and people start wondering while he's gone. If red john was unemployed he wouldn't need accomplices.

Red John had a ring on his finger when his hand was shown. So does Bertram.
He also knows William Blake.

He fits the descriptions. Around 6', short hair( on his sides and back ), not too soft but not too strong, bald on top so he'd wear a baseball cap so his head doesn't get sunburned like the girl saw the guy in the baseball cap.

Bertramwas closest to partridges death scene and if he knew about the phones he could easily abandon his and be there to kill partridge and be back before anybody notices. We don't know Bertrams fear is so he doesn't seem like a red herring.

When smith told Bertram that's your job Bertram didn't follow his order he just kept quiet. Its his job to watch Jane and know how much he knows about tyger tyger and red john because he's red john and in tyger tyger. Thus its his responsibility to watch after himself.

Bertram wanted to be there when Jane caught red john. He's taunting Jane because he's red john so of course he'll be there.

Robin Tunney said she was shocked when red john was revealed. Why? Well if you worked for and played pokerwwith a serial killer wouldn't you be surprised. I would be. Plus he's been right under James nose taunting him for three years.

Finally, when the bomb was brought by red john and went off on the couch who was the farthest away from it? BERTRAM!! plus did you see the tears in Bertrams eyes when his shoulder was revealed. He looks scored because his covers just about blown and hes going to die. He also shows narcissistic qualities as he always watches the image of the CBI and himself and pays attention to the media all the time. Who else does that? Oh yeah red john.

I've made my points so either Bertram is undoubtably Red John or he's the ultimate red herring. Only time will tell.

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Did anyone notice, that at the end of s05e23 the 7 suspects are listed in the following order by RJ/Lorelei Martins:

1. Bret Stiles
2. Gale Bertram
3. Ray Haffner
4. Reede Smith
5. Bob Kirkland
6. Thomas McAllister
7. Brett Patrigde


In season 6 the order we meet these persons is:

1. Brett Patrigde (Episode 1)
2. Thomas McAllister (Episode 3)
3. Bob Kirkland (Episode 4)
4. Reede Smith (Episode 4)
5. Ray Haffner (Episode 5)
6. Gale Bertram (Episode 6)
7. Bret Stiles (Episode 6)


I dont know if this is important. But maybe there's a hint? If so, i can't figure it out myself. If (i doubt it) Brett Patrigde is RJ, it could make sense to "kill" him in the very beginning of this last "RJ-season" so people don't consider him anymore. But wouldn't it be too flashy to put him at spot number 1. or 7. on the list? (according to Bruno Heller: "We can trust the list".. but this doesnt necessarily mean he's on that list but anyway..)


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Theory #9363 • By joe dirt
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I have read so many theories and if they really want to please the loyal fans then wouldn't it be badass if red john was Christopher Walken and he would walk in and say to PJ " your talking to me all wrong do it again and I'll cut your throat with a knife" On a serious note the day before the red john episode I will post a link that is already out there that shows Partridge is Red John but for the sake of the show and the suprise I have kept it a secret for two weeks now.

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