lots of these theories rule out the suspects because of their age, hair
and appearence, but Jane knows Red Johns general appearence and voice,
so why would he put them on the list in the first place?
lots of these theories rule out the suspects because of their age, hair
and appearence, but Jane knows Red Johns general appearence and voice,
so why would he put them on the list in the first place?
Just seen Black-Winged Redbird - and I reckon its Brett Partridge - the Forensics guy...
Theory - he was there in episode 1. (screen-writers delight!)
Who says he's dead? If he can get into the CBI and burn people alive, if he can get people to kill themselves on a whim, etc - he can certainly create a make-believe death.
Was he really killed? I wonder!
Also - when Jane gets the telephone message regarding Lisbon - it sounds exactly the same as Brett Partridge!
If you had created a list of x people, and you were one of those people - bump yourself off the list and the pressures off!
Of course - there are probably many people involved, but I still think there's one guy heading it all up. Also as a forensics guy, he'd be doing "his thing". People invariably tend to do what they're into - and even as a character, he'd be "doing" what he's "good at"/"enjoys". Someone that enjoys cutting up bodies, enjoys the macabre, etc isn't really going to be sitting behind a desk - they're going to be in an environment where they can continue to experience that (distorted) "delight".
He's also, therefore, going know about evidence, he'd know about not leaving evidence/a trace of himself.
He is also very anti-Jane, and Jane has had a run in or two with him.
Theories that say it's Jane or Lisbon are blown out of the water by the recording made by Jane's psychotherapist - (a) it was a man she saw (b) it clearly wasn't Jane (though possible that she had her head messed with 'NLP stylee') - but then Jane would have been aware of the records being transcribed and would have most likely gotten rid of those as well as the records she kept and the records with the University.
Just a thought :) ( <<OMG! Is that a smiley :S )
hello,
I think red john is not inside the list. The full show is about Jane's tricks. He is doing all this to can get to redjohn. The explosion at Jane's house is a trick, the shot is a trick, and we will be all of us suprise I guess in the next chapters.
Is it too simple that Patrick get to red john by this list.
The final trick should be "amazing" otherwise, the show will be a disaster after 6 years.
RJ should be an amaing surprise for everybody, that my point.
I still thinking that somebody inside the team will have something.
My bets are on CHO and / or Lisbon.
question:
why always, during the 6 years, Lisbon has a cross into his neck showing to everybody?
Regards
I feel RJ could be Bob Kirkland's 'TWIN' Brother.
Remember he told Jane that he had an 'Identical' Twin. It just got me thinking...
+ What is the need to kill Bob if he was going to jail, he would be harmless right?
I don't feel anyone from the List are actually RJ. Why would RJ put himself in the list (i.e. in the video with Lorelie)?
These are just the top dogs/disciples of his corrupt group.
Kirkland (guess which one) is red john ... I am sure ... All evidence is there ,in various ways... You just need to see them....
The main problem here is that you complicate every single theory to the point where every suspect can be red john... but if you look with open eyes and mind you will se what i see...and then you will be sure as i am ...
Ben Marx was killed in Red Listed by Kirkland because of Jane's fake list. Marx smelled of PINE and the place Kirkland owns is in the woods -- this suggests that the man who was Rosalind Harker's lover is a Kirkland -- Michael or Bob, I don't know. Whether or not this is RJ I don't know for sure either. Not entirely convinced all the people we think are RJ really are.
BUT, definitely think a KIRKLAND is Harker's lover.
Yup I believe it's him. I think it was the meeting and the way he told PJ in front of the others that they should discuss Red john in private. AT first I thought he was a spy in the camp for the TT but then now after hearing about his reaction last episode I don't think so.
Thing is he hasn't been in there from the beginning so it's kind of a cop out. Also why does he have a tattoo so obvious and glaring. I don't know I don't think this is going to be explained well. it's very rushed already and only two episodes left.
Where does he get the bloody time to be red john he musn't do any of the murders himself. Looking back on him demoting Haffner it is kinda obvious that Haffner moved to visualize because of RJ's connections.
All these clues we are getting...I see someone saying they seen the sheriff belt, well you probably did, I bet it was the actor playing Haffner that saved Jane that time. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the actor who played Partridge dressed in drag, feeding the pigeons. ALl those clues where put in there to confuse us and they did the job.
I don't now I kinda feel cheated, Bertram is bald, his voice is still left to be seen. Lets see if he can pull it off. I think they should have gone with shock value with Rigbsy or even Haffner or Stiles would have been better. hell bring partridge back from the dead, anything to make Red John the legend we hope he is